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Topic: Ripper: John Arbe, orders@mtgshoebox.com
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Jerome_Allen Banned
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posted April 02, 2002 11:23 AM

I hope that MODS and ADMIN can add this to the right forum.John Arbe add'in information. Also he is on MIRC under name: ShOE or ShOEstER channel irc.newnet.net he's on channel #mtgshoebox His father is called Paul Arbe and the REAL address is: John Arbe 12711 SW 9th Place Davie, FL 33325 USA Phone number/s: 954-253-3171 954-474-1963 He's banned from the DCI with his father for cheating. The John's best friend - and a affair partner is BEN STARK - Motl name Ben1983 who lives in Davie too. You can also contact Ben, that can help you to get infos against John. John's website is: http://www.mtgshoebox.com His paypal address is: paypal@mtgshoebox.com He has rippered me a Beta Black Lotus for $367 and i've opened a file for mail fraud with the fbi.gov internet department here you can take infos: http://www.fbi.gov/interagency/ifcc/filingcomplaint.htm and here you can open the file against John Arbe: http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp I can give to everyone all the best that i can do against John. J.A. shawnshark79@hotmail.com
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Jerome_Allen on April 26, 2002] Evidence of trade:i can give any kind of information about John. I've also opened a file against him. other emails - other than the usually emails: orders@mtgshoebox.com mtgshoebox@mtgshoebox.com
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MTGDealer1 Unregistered
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posted April 02, 2002 11:31 AM

I want my phone and address removed from this post a.s.a.p. or I will press charges against the Magic Online Trading League. For Breach of Privacy.__________________
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Bagbokk Member
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posted April 02, 2002 11:31 AM

umm just because someone's friends with a ripper doesn't make them one too. I bought cards from Ben not too long ago and received them as fast as I receive anyone else's mail (3-4 days). He's not a ripper so unless you have been personally ripped by BEN I suggest you not bring him into this.can't comment on John but he's a confirmed ripper I believe so... __________________ -CataAIM: xxcataxx EMail: xcatax@bellsouth.net EverQuest: Duke Bagbokk the Reaver Level 60 Grave Lord Avatars of Discord Rodcet Nife
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Marq Member
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posted April 02, 2002 08:50 PM

I find Ben Stark as a great trader and seller, I just recently bought 4 morphlings from him and they came in a timely manner of 2-3 days. I have no information regarding the Johns.
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The Artifactor Banned
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posted April 05, 2002 06:55 PM

I too know Senor Arbe....under a difffent name of course. And if you are reading this John, you and I BOTH know that there is nothing you can do to get MOTL in trouble. There are other ways on the net now to look up anything on anyone for free.As all Mods would know, John HAS been banned from MOTL more then once and I also beleive there is some legal things you can do to him insted of some hollow threats. As for John, hes only 17, so running a Card shop is a little out of his leage, while his Father owns a Pool Cleaning Company. No point in letting a Good name go to waste a John? As for his Home address, which is correct, John also has many OTHER screen names that Im sure you are awear of to add to the list. I on the other hand, can show proof of what John looks like should anyone be intrested, unless you have become a transevestite, and VERY good details on how to get to Johns house. Now my warning is, and this is as a Friend first and upmost, leave John and don't EVER come back. Theviery, which is what this is another good crime of, is the lowest thing a person can do. Seeing as how you were always a whinning Coward who had to get his way, I suggest that you lick your wounds of whatever pride you might still have and don't bother showing your face here or on anyother site for TRADING, not STEALING, purposes. Anyone who wish's to have more information, please post to this site, for I will check it regularly. Cheers
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Pacman Member
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posted April 05, 2002 09:10 PM

i strongly suggest that bens name be removed from the bta list unless u have a case against him because he is a very trustworthy personPac __________________ Pac attack is back jack and it won't be lookin back cause it don't lack and slack when it comes to bein the mack!
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wilds16 Member
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posted April 09, 2002 09:54 AM

Hi...I need more information about this guy, if you can contact me via email at wilds16@hotmail.com . I think I've been ripped for a lot of money. Thanx!
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wilds16 Member
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posted April 15, 2002 01:10 PM

Hi The Artifactor, if you email me with some information that can help me get my cards back...thanx!
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Ben1983 Member
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posted April 16, 2002 08:16 AM

thank you for the support guys. This is rediculous that my name is on here becuase I live in the same town as john. I know john and he may very well be a ripper but I am definetly not.Ben Stark
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Jerome_Allen Banned
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posted April 16, 2002 12:09 PM

Why don't you give us an help to be get refunds??? You know John personally how you've told us just now. I also have an email where John told me that you're his best friend.J.A.
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The Artifactor Banned
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posted April 17, 2002 06:08 PM

Sorry I have not responded for a while guys. I don't check as offten as I should for these type of Situations. My E-mail is a little down now, but if you give me Personal IM's or Privet messages, I will be able to respond quicker casue I always see thoses.Wild:: What more do you need to know? You have his house address and I would need to know where you are coming from to give you better directions Jerome:: I no longer live anywhere close to John. I went to school w/ him and we were "friends." Anyway, I have no way in my power to get you refunds. The only way for you to do that is to bring John (and his Father Apperently) into the Court Systems and let them do something about it OR you just pay a visit to Johns house and Chat w/ his mom who is always home, and might I add a very Understand person.... at times. Anything else be needed please LMK thanks
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wilds16 Member
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posted April 18, 2002 12:28 PM

It may take a while for me to go there cause I'm from Canada :|. I was just wondering if you know someone that could go to his house, kill him and take all his cards and send them back to all the person he ripped :P
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Ben1983 Member
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posted April 18, 2002 02:07 PM

I know him and where he lives but what can I do i cant fight him to get ur cards backBen
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BEEFED Member
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posted April 24, 2002 11:50 PM

A simple search of the address and BAM!! guess what. http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000097.htmlThen he is fast enouf to come on and give us his newest alais; http://forums.magictraders.com/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=MTGDealer1 You should be getting your wish very soon on his new membership getting put on to the banned list (this member is all ready banned which means you realy needed to do a search before trading). What happened is you sent alot of money to a person who has proved time and again that he will rob you. Now your recourse has to be going through legal chanels to get you money back. And it seems you allready have the information needed to do it. Good Luck in NAILING this person with the LAW!!! BEEFED
[Edited 1 times, lastly by BEEFED on April 24, 2002]
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wilds16 Member
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posted April 25, 2002 08:42 AM

Wow BEEFED, thanx for your very helpful post and help on this one. And by the way, why do you think he's on the badtrader list??? Because we've been ripped by this guy and we have put him there. He was not there before.
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BEEFED Member
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posted April 25, 2002 04:12 PM

quote: Originally posted by wilds16: And by the way, why do you think he's on the badtrader list??? use the link at the top of the post I just did, the name/address is the same. Because we've been ripped by this guy and we have put him there. you will be putting his new membership on there under the same link I put above. He was not there before. September 01, 2000 is when he was first put on there, so yes he was there the whole time.
I answered your questions in the quote of your post. I realy didn't do anything but perform a simple search of his information on the Confirmed bad traders forum. BEEFED
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wilds16 Member
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posted May 15, 2002 01:24 PM

Anyone can gimme some idea to get back my cards??? I try a lot of stuff and nothing happen.
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