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Author Topic:   Bad Trader: ???, mattatl@mindspring.com
Yawgmoth27
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posted September 19, 2001 07:23 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Yawgmoth27 Click Here to Email Yawgmoth27 Send a private message to Yawgmoth27 Click to send Yawgmoth27 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Sent a fake Rayne and Gerrard. I first knew when I felt how thin they were, then tried the light test. Sure enough. light passed through them. Then I tried the crease test, and they didn't pass it. I went down to my local dealer, and he too confirmed they were fake.

I wasn't going to report, and let it slide, just saying as a threat, but he said he was going to report me, so I might as well get the one up on him. Also, when I tried putting his name he gave me, "Matt Adams", it didn't work. When he sent the mail, I also got suspicious b/c his name wasn't on the return address.

~ Yawg

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Yawgmoth27 on September 19, 2001]


Evidence of trade:

Subj: Re:
Date: 9/3/01 12:03:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Yawgmoth 27
To: mattatl@mindspring.com


do the points trade an post it. i don't do trades if you don't post b/c i need to see your refs.

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Subj: trade
Date: 9/3/01 2:17:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Yawgmoth 27
To: mattatl@mindspring.com


sounds good.

rayne
gerrard

for prophetic bolt

you send first since you have less refs.

my addy:

Sean Costales
1230 Oxford Drive, apt. B
Redlands, CA 92374

~yawgmoth27

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Subj: good news and bad news
Date: 9/19/01 4:30:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: Yawgmoth 27
To: mattatl@mindspring.com


the good news is i got your cards.

the bad news is, they were fakes. i first suspected when i pulled them out and they felt thinner. then i did the bend test, and sure enough, they creased. i reported you to motl on the bad trader's list.


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"Autumn's sweet,
We call it fall,
I'll make it to the moon,
If i have to crawl."

Red Hot Chili Peppers
Scar

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Subj: Re: good news and bad news
Date: 9/19/01 5:01:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: mattatl@mindspring.com
To: Yawgmoth27@aol.com

They are not fakes. If they are I kney nothing about it. I got rayne from my friend and gerrard from the local card shop. This is just your excuse 2 keep my cards without you sending your part. You stupid ripper. Screw you retard. Are u saying you know more a bout fakes than a magic card place and my friend. I'm putting u no the bad traders list for ripping me. If you think that there fake than u can ask people that know alot more a bout magic than u do. You stupid lying idiot.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yawgmoth27@aol.com
To: mattatl@mindspring.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 7:30 PM
Subject: good news and bad news


the good news is i got your cards.

the bad news is, they were fakes. i first suspected when i pulled them out and they felt thinner. then i did the bend test, and sure enough, they creased. i reported you to motl on the bad trader's list.


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"Autumn's sweet,
We call it fall,
I'll make it to the moon,
If i have to crawl."

Red Hot Chili Peppers
Scar Tissue


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Subj: Re: trade
Date: 9/19/01 6:53:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time
From: mattatl@mindspring.com
To: Yawgmoth27@aol.com

You wouldn't know real cards if they beat the crap out of you. You **** me off, Saying my cards are fake. You stupid crackhead. I fart in your general direction.
----- Original Message -----
From: Yawgmoth27@aol.com
To: mattatl@mindspring.com
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: trade


what is your zip code?

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squizz
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posted September 28, 2001 01:42 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for squizz Click Here to Email squizz Send a private message to squizz Click to send squizz an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Do you still have this guy's address? I need it to check against the CBT, also if you haven't already done so you should be reporting this to WoTC. The link below is for their legal page and outlines how to go about reporting counterfeiters to them.

http://www.wizards.com/contactinfo/main.asp?x=legal

Btw, is there any chance of you scanning those cards for me?

 
Yawgmoth27
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posted September 28, 2001 02:03 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Yawgmoth27 Click Here to Email Yawgmoth27 Send a private message to Yawgmoth27 Click to send Yawgmoth27 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
The guy said he received the card from the friend and the store. I sent them back to him.
 
squizz
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posted October 04, 2001 11:31 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for squizz Click Here to Email squizz Send a private message to squizz Click to send squizz an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well since you no longer have the evidence there is really nothing I can do to help with this.
 

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