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Author Topic:   Ripper: Jerry D. Barker, jbarker@camcomp.com
Tom
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posted September 19, 2001 05:41 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
As the evidence shows, we had a deal, he got the money, I have not gotten any cards. I know this is small deal, but I figured I would warn others of this guy. As the emails show he changes his story, first the cards were sent back, then he sent the same set of cards three times (yeh, right like anyone would do that without making sure he has some way to cover his butt), then he has the cards, and next (shouting) he does not. My address has not changed, I get mail everyday and have done many deals on MOTL. So I got sick of hearing his garbage and posted him, I did warn him first and he just got rude.

Thanks for your help
Tom


Evidence of trade:


DAMNIT I SAID I HAVENT GOT THEM BACK!

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: motl


Are you going to send the cards or not!?


From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: motl
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:06:13 -0400

I don't change it everytime... You must not read emails correctly and if
you
would have read my last couple emails it says i haven't got them back.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: motl


What do you mean they were sent back? Do you have the cards or not?
Your
story changes with every email. Here is my address, just print it and
cut
it
out, tape to the envelope and send the cards:




Tom Anderson
403 Merrill St.
Sparta WI 54656




p.s. if you are just ripping me off, be honest about so I can move on
and
get the cards somewhere else.


From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: motl
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:25:23 -0400

Go ahead and post me. Like I have said in many emails. THEY WERE SENT
BACK.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: motl


Dude,
I find that hard to believe. You already told me the first
shippment
was
returned to you, so get your story straight.(see your email,
below)
I
also
find it hard to believe you would have that many of those cards
and
would
just keep sending them without making sure they would get here,
insurance
is
only $1. It is your responsibility to get the cards here. Up hold
your
end
of the deal or I will post you.
Tom


From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: motl
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:34:13 -0400

Dude, I have sent them 3 times now and I haven't got them back.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: motl


It's been a month and still no cards. What's up? What's the
satus
of
the
cards?
Tom


From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: motl
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 23:48:53 -0400

I sent in an envelope... Give me address again..
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: motl


Not yet. What day did you send them out? This simul-send
is
taking
forever.
Hopfully the mail is just being slow. How did you send the
cards,
bubble
envelopes usually take a few days longer?
lmk
Tom


From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: motl
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 19:16:21 -0400

.... You still haven't received...?
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: motl


No cards yet, just wondering when you shipped out?
lmk
Tom


From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: motl
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:09:27 -0400

Yes, they sent my cards back today, I need your Addy,
and
I'll
send
back
out
on Monday.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:44 AM
Subject: Re: motl


Has the money gotten there yet?
Tom


From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: motl
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:03:42 -0400

Give me addy and I'll go ahead and send
tomorrow.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: motl


This is not a very big deal, otherwise I would
not
send
first.
I
know
what
it's like to get ripped, have been three
times.
Your
refs.
are
small,
but
they seem good. I will send out the cash
Thursday,
if
you
decide
to
send
before you get the money just lmk so I can
keep
an
eye
out
for
the
cards,
otherwise it's no big deal.
take care
Tom


From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: motl
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:13:22 -0400

If you want me to go ahead and send first, I
will,
but
I
have
already
been
ripped 2 times, thats why i dont like sending
first.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
To: <jbarker@camcomp.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: motl


I will send out the $11 in cash tomorrow.
lmk
when
it
gets
there
and
when
you send out the cards. Hate to send cash
and
to
send
first,
but
I
will
trust you.
Thanks again :)
Tom


From: "Jerry D. Barker"
<jbarker@camcomp.com>
To: <tomcanderson@hotmail.com>
Subject: motl
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:53:38 -0400

Hi,
if the cards are nm'ish or better,(I need
the
hordes
for
the
set)
I
would
like the following, please:
Unlimited demonic tutor X2= 6.00
Unlimited demonic hordes = 5.00
lmk either way, how you want to be paid,
and
the
total
w/
shipping
Thanks
Tom


I would like cash please. Send to:

Jeff Barker
116 Forest Ridge Drive
Kingsland, GA 31 548

i will send when i receive.



 
Tom
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posted September 20, 2001 04:06 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I think some action needs to be taken to protect MOTL'ers. Jerry is trying to sell the very cards he was supposed to send to me. As you can see he lists UNL Tutors as cards he has for sale. He claims to have already sent two or three sets of 2 to me and now has more for sale. This came as part of Armmorine's auction update and his reputation may also be tarnished if Jerry is indead ripping people off and I know Armorine to be very respectable. I hope Jerry does have lots of Unlimied tutors, but it just seems very unlikely to me. I am pretty sure I will never see the cards or my $11 bucks, but with him holding an auction off MOTL this increases the risk that he is planning on ripping off a lot of people.

Just trying to help


Armorine's 10th Auction - Day 14 (9/20 PM - 9/21 PM)

Counters started on Update 5.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
-----Other Auctions-----
HERZOG's POOR MAN'S MAGIC AUCTION - 43 auctions to date over the
past 4 years. FOILS, RARES, UNCOMMONS, COMMON SETS - ALPHA -
PRESENT with minimum raises of $0.05. Contact
herzog@northernnet.com for a copy of the current auction.
-----
J BARKER'S FIRST AND FINAL AUCTION - I'm planning on quitting MtG
so I decided to have an auction. Cards include Foil Spiritmonger,
Foil Chant, Scuta, BoP, UNL Tutors, Hammer, Mage, etc. No minimum
bid. Contact jbarker@camcomp.com to join the list today!



 
daddyj
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posted September 21, 2001 08:48 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for daddyj Click Here to Email daddyj Send a private message to daddyj Click to send daddyj an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well, you can always file a complaint via www.ifccfbi.gov

BTW, as you probably already know, there is no way that he could know that the cards were being returned unless he received them back.

__________________
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-Cobra Commander

 
Tom
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posted September 24, 2001 11:44 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Thanks for the post daddyj and yes I knew that. No word from him and no cards. It's been more than a month since this simul send started so what should I do next?
 
inca911
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posted September 25, 2001 11:42 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for inca911 Click Here to Email inca911 Send a private message to inca911 Click to send inca911 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I have emailed him.

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Tom
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posted October 01, 2001 05:34 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Still no cards, no word. Just thought I would keep you updated.
 
Tom
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posted October 09, 2001 11:49 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Same, same, no cards, no word. Any word on your end?
Thanks
Tom
 
armorine
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posted October 09, 2001 07:13 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for armorine Click Here to Email armorine Send a private message to armorine Click to send armorine an Instant MessageVisit armorine's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hello everyone,
In response to this current sitution, I am investigating everything from my end. As a Vice Admiral in GAB, and having many MOTL refs as well, I am very upset over this problem. In response, I have currently removed Jerry Barker from my auction, removed his link, and have suspended his bids until I learn more. Anyone with information on current and prior dealings, good or bad, with Jerry Barker, please e-mail me at armorine10@yahoo.com

Andrew Walker
Armorine's Auctions

 
armorine
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posted October 09, 2001 07:24 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for armorine Click Here to Email armorine Send a private message to armorine Click to send armorine an Instant MessageVisit armorine's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hello again,
Tom, please go to www.gabtraders.com and report Jerry Barker to the investigation team as well. He is a Lt. Commander in GAB's Silver Blade team, so he has some references listed there, but we need to have have checked by GAB as well. I'll keep you updated as I learn more.

Andrew Walker
Armorine's Auctions

 
Tom
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posted October 09, 2001 08:06 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Thanks armorine,
I filled out the GAB form and submitted it. I still have very little hope of every seeing any cards, but hopefuly this will stop anyone else from being ripped off.
 
armorine
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posted October 09, 2001 09:26 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for armorine Click Here to Email armorine Send a private message to armorine Click to send armorine an Instant MessageVisit armorine's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hi Tom,
That's good that you initiated a GAB investigation too. Have you written him about possibly just gettig the money back? Didn't see that in the thread. Also, never send actual cash via mail whenever possible. Just isn't a safe thing to do in general.

Andrew Walker
Armorine's Auctions

 
BloodPet1
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posted October 11, 2001 11:51 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for BloodPet1 Click Here to Email BloodPet1 Send a private message to BloodPet1 Click to send BloodPet1 an Instant MessageVisit BloodPet1's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I also had probelsm with this guy months ago-althoguh he didn't rip me, as he was sending 1st, but aafter about a month I'd still not received his cards, all be it a few commons, but he'd obviously declined to send, and to reply to my e-mails. He could've told me he didn't want to do the trade anymore, instead of just not sending, or at least responded to my e-mails.

Just watch out, is all I'm saying, not acusing anyone, as he's NOT ripped me off.

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Tom
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posted October 15, 2001 04:51 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Weekly update, no word, no cards. Thanks to everyone for their help as well, but I think we are beating a dead horse here.
 
Tom
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posted October 22, 2001 04:16 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Still no word, no cards.
 
Tom
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posted October 29, 2001 01:13 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Still nothing, how long do we wait?
 
Tom
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posted November 05, 2001 07:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Well it's Monday again and the update is the same, no word, no cards.
 
Tom
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posted November 13, 2001 01:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Same, same. Nothing!
 
armorine
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posted November 15, 2001 08:45 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for armorine Click Here to Email armorine Send a private message to armorine Click to send armorine an Instant MessageVisit armorine's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Just found another thing on the GAB site you could use. Go here:

http://www.gabtraders.com/faq.htm

Near the bottom are some links addressing mail fraud and how you can go about it. Just trying to help, hate seeing people getting cheated.

Andrew Walker
Armorine's Auctions

 
Tom
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posted November 19, 2001 07:34 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Thanks again Andrew for the help, but $11 is just not worth any more hassle than doing these endless weekly updates. I was just trying to protect others for the most part and if I got the cards or money back that would just be gravey. Still no cards, no word. When will this end?
 
Tom
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posted November 26, 2001 12:33 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Still nothing. Moderators, please deal with this issue so I can move on.
Thanks
Tom
 
Tom
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posted December 06, 2001 10:41 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Tom Click Here to Email Tom Send a private message to Tom Click to send Tom an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
G.A.B. has confirmed this guy as a bad trader, please do the same, SOON.
 
wayne
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posted January 03, 2002 09:34 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
E-mailed him.
 
wayne
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posted January 14, 2002 02:08 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
E-mailed him.
 
wayne
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posted January 21, 2002 05:19 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Placed him on the Confirmed Bad Traders list.
 

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