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Topic: Ripper: Jerry D. Barker, jbarker@camcomp.com
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Tom Member
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posted September 19, 2001 05:41 PM

As the evidence shows, we had a deal, he got the money, I have not gotten any cards. I know this is small deal, but I figured I would warn others of this guy. As the emails show he changes his story, first the cards were sent back, then he sent the same set of cards three times (yeh, right like anyone would do that without making sure he has some way to cover his butt), then he has the cards, and next (shouting) he does not. My address has not changed, I get mail everyday and have done many deals on MOTL. So I got sick of hearing his garbage and posted him, I did warn him first and he just got rude. Thanks for your help Tom Evidence of trade: DAMNIT I SAID I HAVENT GOT THEM BACK!
----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 6:33 PM Subject: Re: motl Are you going to send the cards or not!?
From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: motl Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:06:13 -0400 I don't change it everytime... You must not read emails correctly and if you would have read my last couple emails it says i haven't got them back. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: Re: motl What do you mean they were sent back? Do you have the cards or not? Your story changes with every email. Here is my address, just print it and cut it out, tape to the envelope and send the cards: Tom Anderson 403 Merrill St. Sparta WI 54656 p.s. if you are just ripping me off, be honest about so I can move on and get the cards somewhere else. From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: motl Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:25:23 -0400 Go ahead and post me. Like I have said in many emails. THEY WERE SENT BACK. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: Re: motl Dude, I find that hard to believe. You already told me the first shippment was returned to you, so get your story straight.(see your email, below) I also find it hard to believe you would have that many of those cards and would just keep sending them without making sure they would get here, insurance is only $1. It is your responsibility to get the cards here. Up hold your end of the deal or I will post you. Tom From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: motl Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 21:34:13 -0400 Dude, I have sent them 3 times now and I haven't got them back. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:00 PM Subject: Re: motl It's been a month and still no cards. What's up? What's the satus of the cards? Tom From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: motl Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 23:48:53 -0400 I sent in an envelope... Give me address again.. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:19 PM Subject: Re: motl Not yet. What day did you send them out? This simul-send is taking forever. Hopfully the mail is just being slow. How did you send the cards, bubble envelopes usually take a few days longer? lmk Tom From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: motl Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2001 19:16:21 -0400 .... You still haven't received...? ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:43 PM Subject: Re: motl No cards yet, just wondering when you shipped out? lmk Tom From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: motl Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2001 12:09:27 -0400 Yes, they sent my cards back today, I need your Addy, and I'll send back out on Monday. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:44 AM Subject: Re: motl Has the money gotten there yet? Tom From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: motl Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 22:03:42 -0400 Give me addy and I'll go ahead and send tomorrow. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 8:40 PM Subject: Re: motl This is not a very big deal, otherwise I would not send first. I know what it's like to get ripped, have been three times. Your refs. are small, but they seem good. I will send out the cash Thursday, if you decide to send before you get the money just lmk so I can keep an eye out for the cards, otherwise it's no big deal. take care Tom From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: "Tom Anderson" <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: motl Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 17:13:22 -0400 If you want me to go ahead and send first, I will, but I have already been ripped 2 times, thats why i dont like sending first. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Anderson <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> To: <jbarker@camcomp.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 4:39 PM Subject: Re: motl I will send out the $11 in cash tomorrow. lmk when it gets there and when you send out the cards. Hate to send cash and to send first, but I will trust you. Thanks again :) Tom From: "Jerry D. Barker" <jbarker@camcomp.com> To: <tomcanderson@hotmail.com> Subject: motl Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 15:53:38 -0400 Hi, if the cards are nm'ish or better,(I need the hordes for the set) I would like the following, please: Unlimited demonic tutor X2= 6.00 Unlimited demonic hordes = 5.00 lmk either way, how you want to be paid, and the total w/ shipping Thanks Tom I would like cash please. Send to: Jeff Barker 116 Forest Ridge Drive Kingsland, GA 31 548 i will send when i receive.
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Tom Member
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posted September 20, 2001 04:06 PM

I think some action needs to be taken to protect MOTL'ers. Jerry is trying to sell the very cards he was supposed to send to me. As you can see he lists UNL Tutors as cards he has for sale. He claims to have already sent two or three sets of 2 to me and now has more for sale. This came as part of Armmorine's auction update and his reputation may also be tarnished if Jerry is indead ripping people off and I know Armorine to be very respectable. I hope Jerry does have lots of Unlimied tutors, but it just seems very unlikely to me. I am pretty sure I will never see the cards or my $11 bucks, but with him holding an auction off MOTL this increases the risk that he is planning on ripping off a lot of people.Just trying to help Armorine's 10th Auction - Day 14 (9/20 PM - 9/21 PM)
Counters started on Update 5. ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Other Auctions----- HERZOG's POOR MAN'S MAGIC AUCTION - 43 auctions to date over the past 4 years. FOILS, RARES, UNCOMMONS, COMMON SETS - ALPHA - PRESENT with minimum raises of $0.05. Contact herzog@northernnet.com for a copy of the current auction. ----- J BARKER'S FIRST AND FINAL AUCTION - I'm planning on quitting MtG so I decided to have an auction. Cards include Foil Spiritmonger, Foil Chant, Scuta, BoP, UNL Tutors, Hammer, Mage, etc. No minimum bid. Contact jbarker@camcomp.com to join the list today!
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daddyj Member
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posted September 21, 2001 08:48 AM

Well, you can always file a complaint via www.ifccfbi.govBTW, as you probably already know, there is no way that he could know that the cards were being returned unless he received them back. __________________ Never trust anyone, not even yourself. -Cobra Commander
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Tom Member
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posted September 24, 2001 11:44 AM

Thanks for the post daddyj and yes I knew that. No word from him and no cards. It's been more than a month since this simul send started so what should I do next?
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inca911 Administrator
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posted September 25, 2001 11:42 AM

I have emailed him.__________________ Wanted Summer Magic cards (finder's fee offered): armageddon clock, blessing, goblin king, helm of chatzuk, millstone, mishras war machine, reverse damage, volcanic island (and maybe others you know of or can find)! I also want any other ultra-rares(e.g. Splendid Genesis)
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Tom Member
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posted October 01, 2001 05:34 PM

Still no cards, no word. Just thought I would keep you updated.
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Tom Member
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posted October 09, 2001 11:49 AM

Same, same, no cards, no word. Any word on your end? Thanks Tom
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armorine Member
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posted October 09, 2001 07:13 PM

Hello everyone, In response to this current sitution, I am investigating everything from my end. As a Vice Admiral in GAB, and having many MOTL refs as well, I am very upset over this problem. In response, I have currently removed Jerry Barker from my auction, removed his link, and have suspended his bids until I learn more. Anyone with information on current and prior dealings, good or bad, with Jerry Barker, please e-mail me at armorine10@yahoo.comAndrew Walker Armorine's Auctions
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armorine Member
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posted October 09, 2001 07:24 PM

Hello again, Tom, please go to www.gabtraders.com and report Jerry Barker to the investigation team as well. He is a Lt. Commander in GAB's Silver Blade team, so he has some references listed there, but we need to have have checked by GAB as well. I'll keep you updated as I learn more.Andrew Walker Armorine's Auctions
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Tom Member
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posted October 09, 2001 08:06 PM

Thanks armorine, I filled out the GAB form and submitted it. I still have very little hope of every seeing any cards, but hopefuly this will stop anyone else from being ripped off.
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armorine Member
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posted October 09, 2001 09:26 PM

Hi Tom, That's good that you initiated a GAB investigation too. Have you written him about possibly just gettig the money back? Didn't see that in the thread. Also, never send actual cash via mail whenever possible. Just isn't a safe thing to do in general.Andrew Walker Armorine's Auctions
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BloodPet1 Member
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posted October 11, 2001 11:51 AM

I also had probelsm with this guy months ago-althoguh he didn't rip me, as he was sending 1st, but aafter about a month I'd still not received his cards, all be it a few commons, but he'd obviously declined to send, and to reply to my e-mails. He could've told me he didn't want to do the trade anymore, instead of just not sending, or at least responded to my e-mails.Just watch out, is all I'm saying, not acusing anyone, as he's NOT ripped me off. __________________ "You are wrong", Volrath said. "I do not hate the living, they often prove quite useful to me". And then he laughed - Blood Pet _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Vice-Admiral BloodPet1 on GAB's Black Granite Team. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ AIM handle: Vampyre666
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Tom Member
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posted October 15, 2001 04:51 PM

Weekly update, no word, no cards. Thanks to everyone for their help as well, but I think we are beating a dead horse here.
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Tom Member
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posted October 22, 2001 04:16 PM

Still no word, no cards.
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Tom Member
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posted October 29, 2001 01:13 PM

Still nothing, how long do we wait?
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Tom Member
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posted November 05, 2001 07:25 PM

Well it's Monday again and the update is the same, no word, no cards.
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Tom Member
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posted November 13, 2001 01:25 PM

Same, same. Nothing!
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armorine Member
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posted November 15, 2001 08:45 AM

Just found another thing on the GAB site you could use. Go here:http://www.gabtraders.com/faq.htm Near the bottom are some links addressing mail fraud and how you can go about it. Just trying to help, hate seeing people getting cheated. Andrew Walker Armorine's Auctions
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Tom Member
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posted November 19, 2001 07:34 PM

Thanks again Andrew for the help, but $11 is just not worth any more hassle than doing these endless weekly updates. I was just trying to protect others for the most part and if I got the cards or money back that would just be gravey. Still no cards, no word. When will this end?
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Tom Member
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posted November 26, 2001 12:33 PM

Still nothing. Moderators, please deal with this issue so I can move on. Thanks Tom
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Tom Member
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posted December 06, 2001 10:41 AM

G.A.B. has confirmed this guy as a bad trader, please do the same, SOON.
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wayne Member
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posted January 03, 2002 09:34 AM

E-mailed him.
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wayne Member
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posted January 14, 2002 02:08 AM

E-mailed him.
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wayne Member
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posted January 21, 2002 05:19 AM

Placed him on the Confirmed Bad Traders list.
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