Spiritmonger
Eldamri's Call
Ivory Mask
4 Disk (all 4th I beleive, nm)
2 Ball Lightning
Mind Twist
2 English Underworld Dreams
3 Vindicate
Undermine
Yawgmoth's Will

I have repeatedly instant messaged and emailed him without any response. He promised to send the cards again and again. But I have not seen anything.

©

I've been trying to send an instant message for a week now, and lets hope you get this one...but anyway...

I'm having trouble finding the ball lightnings and the one Spiritmonger....
I will send everything else, then AS SOON as I get the Ball Lightnings and the Monger I can send them as
well...sorry about this mix up, while we were in the process of making a trade, i accidentally traded those 5 cards,
so like I said, let me get what I can in the mail, then I will send the rest...alright?

once again, I'm really sorry about this

----- Original Message -----
I have not received any cards, hate to bug you, however, have you been able to send them yet?

Antony
----- Original Message -----
That's alright, I just got a few Bazaars

Also, my apologies for the late sending...I intended to have your cards in the mail on Wednesday, but I've been sick
as a dog for the last few days...I've called off work twice and just stayed in bed or slept for the past few days. I
will most definately send out on Monday.

----- Original Message -----
If your still interested in the bazaar. I wouldn't mind a couple of morphlings, spiritmonger, or a vindicate. I also have
a scuta if you want.

Anthony
----- Original Message -----
Well the reason I could use it is because they unrestricted ivory tower...i want to hook up the bazaar with
squee...and throw in intuition or something and make a life gaining deck

----- Original Message -----
Yes one, near mint condition, oddly alot of people have been asking for it.

----- Original Message -----
OK, got the cards...thanks...I can send out either Monday or Tuesday.

Also, do you have any Bazaar of Baghdad?

----- Original Message -----
Pat,

I mailed the cards yesterday, if there are any problems with these cards let me know. Thanks,

Anthony
----- Original Message -----
Thank you very much for being so understanding...I have to pick up some stamps and should have tem IN THE MAIL
by tuesday...thanks again.
----- Original Message -----
Ok, thats fine. gotta end this sometime. I'll mail the cards on monday. Should arrive around Thursday.

so in total my end:
2 tropical islands
2 taigas
2 underground seas
2 savannah (Near mint)
2 scrubland (Near mint)

for your:

Spiritmonger
Eldamri's Call
Ivory Mask
4 Disk (all 4th I beleive, nm)
2 Ball Lightning
Mind Twist
2 English Underworld Dreams
3 Vindicate
Undermine
Yawgmoth's Will

----- Original Message -----
OK, I was looking over your wants and came up with this:
My:
Spiritmonger
Eldamri's Call
Ivory Mask
4 Disk (all 4th I beleive, nm)
2 Ball Lightning

for 2 savannah and 2 Scrubland

Is that good?
once again, it sounds even considering the condition of the duals...and the origional trade is way in your favor...lmk

----- Original Message -----
Pat, I'm sorry but I have 6 ball lightnings already and only need 2. I'm willing to trade for the disks (what set are
they from?) but I have no idea what a Squee is and therefore no need for it. Sorry! I'm a T1 guy. As for the duals,
I'll send you near mint ones now that I know you want the best condition. Hopefully we can resolve this shortly!

----- Original Message -----
I will give you 4 ball lightnings and 4 disks, along with 4 Squee for the:

3 Savannah
1 Scrubland

Keep in mind that in our origional offer, your cards weren't in good condition at all, and the 4 duals requested here
probably arent either...so it truly is a good deal

----- Original Message -----
darn! well, i don't need the crosis x 4 any more. If you could provide a substitution with any 2 of following
(vindicate, scuta, spiritmonger) or perhaps the 2 disks, 2 ball lightnigs (which set?) for two duals
----- Original Message -----
I can't...the Cyclopean Tomb is already traded in a different deal.
Thanks for being understanding of the situation!

----- Original Message -----
Pat,

I'm sorry about the condition, I didn't realize it was such an issue and I wish we discussed this before I sent the
cards. To resolve this I agree with the second trade but ask for a substitution.
Could I switch the 4 crosis, 4 stormseekers and the vernal bloom for your cyclopean tomb?

so 3 savannah (nm)
1 scrubland (nm)

for
2 ball lightning (which edition?)
2 disk (which edition)?
1 cyclopean tomb

deeply sorry,
Anthony
----- Original Message -----
Hi, I got your cards yesterday...the condition of the duals is not very good...
Given their condition, the 6 duals are worth the 2 Underworld Dreams alone...
This israther disappointing, so I'm going to try to make a second offer (to add on to our deal) in my favor, to even
things out.
(Don't get me wrong...don't take any offense or anything)

With all that I send you, I can add in some stuff if you send mea few more cards....so...can I add my:
2 Ball Lightning
2 Nevinyrral's Disk
4 Crosis
4 Storm Seeker
Vernal Bloom

for your:
3 Savannah
1 Scrubland

Keep in mind, this trade is slightly in my favor, because the duals from the first are hardly in good condition...this
trade will kibnd of even it out...I'm sure you can understand (or at least I hope)...

Thanks very much
-Pat

----- Original Message -----
yes, wednesday morning.

----- Original Message -----
No thanks, I dont need them that much.

Have you sent the 6 duals?

----- Original Message -----
Sorry for the delay,

how about your:
2 ball lightning
2 Nevinyrral's Disk

for my:
4 enduring renewals
?

----- Original Message -----
O ya, do you want my:
4 Crosis
1 Vernal Bloom

for your:
4 Enduring Renewal???

----- Original Message -----
Interesting card, those rootwar thiefs are... but sorry I don't presently need them or the tomb. I like the cards, but
value the having the duals higher. I hope you understand. I'll go ahead and send the other 6 as already agreed.

Not to prolong this transaction, but I am interested in these selected cards depending on their condition:

2 ball lightning
2 Nevinyrral's Disk
4 Crosis, the Purger
4 Storm Seeker (1 DK) <- stands for ?
1 Vernal bloom
1 Earthquake

Perhaps you want the enduring renewals?

----- Original Message -----
If I throw in the Tomb, and 4 rootwater THEIF...will you add:
Savannah
Tundra
and scrubland?
this seems like a lot, but the origional deal is WELL in your favor, especially with the 3 HOT vindicates...so overall,
we've come up with:

My:
2 Underworld Dreams
Mind Twist
Undermine
3 Vindicate
Cyclopean Tomb
Yawgmoth's Will
4 Rootwater Thief

for your:
2 Underground Sea
2 Taiga
2 Tropical Island
1 Savannah
1 Tundra
1 Scrubland

Let me know if this is ok and we have a deal...
----- Original Message -----
Damn you trade fast. I don't know what Rootwaters are and when I looked them up there seems to be several
types. I'm not much into the newer cards as you may have noticed besides a select few. The tomb interests me
partially.

----- Original Message -----
I'm sorry, the Scutas have been traded...
Can I give you 4 Rootwaters and Cyclopean Tomb for the 2 Savannahs and oh...say...tundra or volcanic island OR
scrubland???????

So my 5 for your 3???...but one of my 5 is the Tomb...LMK

----- Original Message -----
Ok, throw in three scutas and i'll add 2 savannahs.

----- Original Message -----
OK...could you make it 2 Underground Sea, 2 Tropical Island, and 2 Taiga??????

Also, can you PLEASE makean offer for more of your duals!!!!!!!

----- Original Message -----
sorry, i'm not looking for the masses. My buddy accidently walked off with the volcanic islands last night when we
were playing magic, I'll mail them tomorrow. If you want different combination (example 2 vol, 2 bayou, 2 savannah)
let me know before then. I value them equally.

Anthony
----- Original Message -----
OK, great...no I don't live near Philly...actually, I live on the other side of PA, about 40 miles from Ohio...

Yes, I would like to make some more trades, but your list is limited to mostly cards that I don't have...(are you
interested in foils?)

I am going to make an offer using cards not on your list that you might want...if not, could you do me a
favor?...check out my list to see if you can find cards for yours which I am about to list...

From you, I want:

4 Badlands
3 Plateau
4 Savannah
4 Scrubland
3 Taiga
4 Tundra
4 Underground Sea
4 Volcanic Island

OK, this list of what I will give you starts off with the good stuff, but then gets average, onnetheless, there are
TONS of cards...
My:
-10 FOIL rares, including:Whirlpool Warrior, Artifact Mutation, Kavu Titan, Kavu Monarch, Defense of the Heart

-33 FOIL Uncommons, including APOC, lands, Soothsaying, and many others

-69 FOIL commons

-66 FOIL Lands: 20 Plains, 15 Islands, 15 Swamps, 10 Forests, 6 Mountains

-2 Berserks (unlimited, both NM)

-Berserk (Beta, excellent)

-Tabernacle (Italian)

Cyclopean Tomb (unlimited, nm-m)

-Guru Swamp and Guru Mountain

-1 Full Ilusions of Grandeur Deck

-4 Rootwater Theif
-4 Aura Theif
-4 Treachery
-3 Bribery
-4 Blazing Specter
-2 Phyrexian Arena
-3 Phyrexian Scuta
-4 Ice Age Icy Manipulator
-2 Rhox
-3 Planar Portal

-6 Signed cards, they are: DEFENSE OF THE EART, SWORDS TO PLOWSHARES(good,)Clockwork Beast, 2 Chaos
Moon, Game of Chaos

-20.00

-300 MIXED rares...don't get me wrong...nothing spectacular, but they ARE rare...we usually use them for drafts...

OK, so thats:
THREE HUNDRED Rares, 33 listed rares, an Illusions deck worth about 100.00 itself, 2 GURU lands (if you know what
they are, you know theyre very rare...popular on MOTL), 3 Berserks!!!, Cyclopean Tomb, Tabernacle at Pendrell
Vale, 20.00, 6 SIGNED cards, and 158 FOILS...

for the 30 Duals

If you do not want this offer, check my HW and try to find something...anything...for ALL 30 duals, or as many as
you can!!!I could also use your Moxes and the Timetwister, butI'm no even going to try...

----- Original Message -----
Well, it sounds fine to me. I'll probably mail them tomorrow in a top loader to your address after I do some research
on this trading system. If all goes well they might arrive by friday. My address:

Anthony Sager
2701 Hiding Place
Milford, MI 48381

If you have any problems, let me know.
ps. How far are you from Philly? I go to school there.

Also, are you interested in any other trades? I have more duals, 2 tropical islands, 1 bayou and at least four of the
rest.

----- Original Message -----
OK, the first one has VERY little whitening in the bottom left of the front, and 2 or 3 TINY white specs around the
border on the back...

The second has little whitening on the left side of the card and in the bottom left corner, and some whitening in the
top right of the front...I would call this one NM, others might call it excellent...either way...the trade is in your
favor...

Tell ya what...when you receive my cards, if you don't like the condition of them, just return them and I will return
yours...cool?

Confirm again, this time if still yes, the let me know when you can send...

my address is:

Patrick Hepner
500 Davis School Road
Washington, PA 15301

So they are

----- Original Message -----
ok, fine as along as the underworlds are in nearmint as they say. If anything is wrong with them, now is the time to
tell me.

----- Original Message -----
Alright then, I can throw it in...
However, scince I have 15 refs to your 0, you will be sending first...I understand that it's 6 Duals, but look at it
from my perspective as well.
I remember when I had 0 refs, it was tough getting any, so for sending first, I will throw in a revised Mind Twist...

So the final trade is:
My:
Mind Twist
2 English Underworld Dreams
3 Vindicate
Undermine
Yawgmoth's Will

for your:
4 Bayou
2 Tropical Islands

Please just confirm that everything is OK, and you will go through with the trade...

----- Original Message -----
Ok, if you want 6, throw in a yawgmoth's will and its a deal.

----- Original Message -----
I'm sorry, but I can only do it for the 6, mainly because I already have a good trade with the Undermine, I might
trade it to you if you go 6...for 5 I would have to take out the undermine...

----- Original Message -----
i'll do it for five duals. combination of bayou/tropical of your choice.

----- Original Message -----
OK, for your:
2 Tropical Islands
4 Bayou

I will give you:
2 NM-M Eng. Underworld Dreams
3 Vindicate
Undermine

LMK ASAP!!!!

------------------
Alright, who's the dead man that hit me with the saltshaker?

__________________
AIM Handle: SURFNSKI4REAL
E-mail Address: SURFNSKI4REAL@aol.com

King Woopywoopy of the Penguin Clan

This is a completely seperate matter. Heavy 13 and I exchanged several private messages via of this site (THEY ARE NOT REGULAR EMAILS). These don't have signatures like email, but I have over twenty from the beginning of our trades. I understand someone if clever enough and if had large amounts of time probably could forge the text into looking like a instant message. If a moderator wants to check my messages for proof I welcome them and would give them access to my username and password.

I'll admit I'm farely new to this trading system and learning but I'm sure working with the moderators they will see my claim.

As far as I'm concerned HAN your creditability in my eyes is nothing due the fact you never held up your end of our trade. Try to discredit me as you wish, but this is entirely a different matter

I found some more "hard evidence" via of email to solidify my claims. I apologize the lack of organization on my part, I'm new and learning.

Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 22:02:28 -0700
From: Steve Hepner <skipjack@stargate.net>
To: sager@seas.upenn.edu
Cc: neches@stargate.net
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Hi, we had the trade with the duals,

I have not been able to access my private messages on MOTL, and my email sometimes sends with viruses
(unintentionally)...So I haven't been able to reach you...

I am going to send out MOST of the cards tomorrow, but I can't find the 4 B. Lightnings and 1 or 2 others, but I assure
you that they will be sent soon....

This trade was very unorganized on my part, so my full apologies....just don't get worried or anyhing, you will get all
of the cards.

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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:21:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anthony W Sager <sager@blue.seas.upenn.edu>
To: Steve Hepner <skipjack@stargate.net>
Subject: Re: MOTL

no problem.

Anthony Sager
2701 Hiding Place
Milford, MI 48381

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Steve Hepner wrote:

>
> Hi, we had the trade with the duals,
>
> I have not been able to access my private messages on MOTL, and my email sometimes sends with viruses
(unintentionally)...So I haven't been able to reach you...
>
> I am going to send out MOST of the cards tomorrow, but I can't find the 4 B. Lightnings and 1 or 2 others, but I assure you
that they will be sent soon....
>
> This trade was very unorganized on my part, so my full apologies....just don't get worried or anyhing, you will get all of
the cards.
>
> But once again, I cant seem to access my MOTL messages, so would you send me your address?
>

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Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 13:21:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Anthony W Sager <sager@seas.upenn.edu>
To: Steve Hepner <skipjack@stargate.net>
Subject: Re: MOTL
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no problem.

Anthony Sager
2701 Hiding Place
Milford, MI 48381

On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, Steve Hepner wrote:

>
> Hi, we had the trade with the duals,
>
> I have not been able to access my private messages on MOTL, and my email sometimes sends with viruses
(unintentionally)...So I haven't been able to reach you...
>
> I am going to send out MOST of the cards tomorrow, but I can't find the 4 B. Lightnings and 1 or 2 others, but I assure you
that they will be sent soon....
>
> This trade was very unorganized on my part, so my full apologies....just don't get worried or anyhing, you will get all of
the cards.
>
> But once again, I cant seem to access my MOTL messages, so would you send me your address?
>