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DrewS
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Dinh Tu Nguyen is apprently the owner or manager of an England based company. We worked out a trade about 2 months ago and we have been in contact but he says he has not recieved the cards yet. I have looked on his trade board on www.dnscards.co.uk and found that several others were not recieving cards. Soon after he closed all his trading post threads as well as the entire section for trade offers. Our trade was worked out on the IRC chat client, but I also have e-mail confirmation of our trade. Since I sent my cards about 2 months ago and he claims not to have recieved them, I am very suspicious. The trade is worth well over $200.00 as it was a combination of two trades. I have proof that I sent the cards, as I still have the postal reciept, which I will try to get a scan of ASAP. Here I am going to include my e-mails...but I do not have the IRC logs on this computer. I am at the moment on vacation...but I will be home tommorow night and will add the logs here. They show the cards involved in the trades as well as any other comments made. Please let me know by e-mail if you've had any problems with this trader before...since he is a "business" I would expect any buying or selling done to be very secure and problem-free.


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[Edited 1 times, lastly by Tha Gunslinga on December 06, 2005]


Evidence of trade:

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Subject : Trades Offer
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Hi there Andrew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry. I hope that you are well.

Comments & Proposal: Hello, my name is Andrew Saad and I saw your website
through #apprentice. If you agree/want to revise trade, etc, e-mail me and I'll
get right back to you! Thanks!

I have made a revised trade offer below, please can you let us know what you
decide....

Your cards listed....

1 Orim's Chant
4 Tradewind Rider
4 Troublesome Spirit
1 Tsabo's Decree
4 Crypt Angel
3 Lord of the Undead
1 Phyrexian Scuta
2 Nether Spirit
3 Two Headed Dragon
4 Elvish Champion
1 Shivan Wurm
1 Void
1 Foil Troublesome Spirit
and about 100 type 2 rares, will send list with next reply. About 25 7th ed, the
rest Invasion and PS.

For our cards listed...

2 Masticore
4 Plow Under
2 Morphling
4 Opposition
2 Meddling Mage
3 Winter's Grasp
1 Cursed Scroll
4 Misdirection
1 Foil Seal of Fire

#mtgUK - Playtest | Draft | Chat | Community -

To chat goto...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/dnscards_chat.htm

For more details, goto...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/links/onlinemagic.htm


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Hi there Andrew,

Thank you for your trades equiry. I hope that you are well.

Actually, I am in more need of Apocalypse cards...When you have them
available, I will need:
4 Gerrard's Verdict
4 Death Grasp
4 Vindicate
4 Caves of Koilos
in addition
2 Urza's Rage
3 Winter's Grasp
2 Tithe

I offer these cards for them:

1 Orim's Chant
4 Tradewind Rider
4 Troublesome Spirit
1 Tsabo's Decree
4 Crypt Angel
3 Lord of the Undead
1 Phyrexian Scuta
3 Two Headed Dragon
4 Elvish Champion
1 Shivan Wurm
1 Void
1 Foil Troublesome Spirit
100 Different Type 2 Rares (7th, MM, NE, PY, IN, and PS)

Let me know if this is fair.

The cards thatr you have listed from Apocalypse will be quite expensive. I they
range from $7-$12 each.

Would it be possible if you can make us a trade offer for these. When we have
them in stock and are ready to sell. Please keep an eye on our news letter for
more updates.


#mtgUK - Playtest | Draft | Chat | Community -

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http://www.dnscards.co.uk/dnscards_chat.htm

For more details, goto...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/links/onlinemagic.htm

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Hi there Drew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry. I hope that you are well.

If the trade I offered is not quite fair, please make one that you feel is.
Keep in mind that Apocalypse is in first priority. Thanks.

I have listed below a revised trade offer based on the prices we will be
assigning our Apocalypse cards.

Our cards listed...

4 Gerrard's Verdict - 1.50 each
4 Death Grasp - 5.00 each
2 Vindicate - 8.00 each
4 Caves of Koilos - 6.00 each
3 Winter's Grasp - 1.00 each
2 Tithe - 2.00 each


For your cards listed...

1 Orim's Chant
4 Tradewind Rider
4 Troublesome Spirit
1 Tsabo's Decree
4 Crypt Angel
3 Lord of the Undead
1 Phyrexian Scuta
3 Two Headed Dragon
4 Elvish Champion
1 Shivan Wurm
1 Void
1 Foil Troublesome Spirit
100 Different Type 2 Rares (7th, MM, NE, PY, IN, and PS)

Please let us know what you decide.


#mtgUK - Playtest | Draft | Chat | Community -

To chat goto...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/dnscards_chat.htm

For more details, goto...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/links/onlinemagic.htm

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Hi there,

Thank you for your trades enquiry. I hope that you are well.

How much in trade value alone could I get for these cards? let me know

I have listed below the trade prices for the cards you have to offer. Please can
you make us a trade offer based on these.


Card Name Trade Price per item (GBP)

Orim's Chant 4.00

Tradewind Rider 2.00

Troublesome Spirit 1.50

Tsabo's Decree 3.00

Crypt Angel 1.50

Lord of the Undead 2.00

Phyrexian Scuta 4.50

Two Headed Dragon 2.00

Elvish Champion 1.75

Shivan Wurm 5.00

Void 4.00

Foil Troublesome Spirit 6.00


#mtgUK - Playtest | Draft | Chat | Community -

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http://www.dnscards.co.uk/dnscards_chat.htm

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Hi there Andrew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry. I hope that this email finds you well.

Please can you visit our wants list again as we have justed revised our prices.
Please can you make us a trade offer based on those prices.


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-Tu Nguyen - DnSCards Single Cards Seller
-Web Address - http://www.DnSCards.co.uk
-E-mail - Buyit@DnSCards.co.uk
-Phone number UK - 07958 68 39 03
-Phone number Int- +44 (0) 7958 683 903
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Hi there Andrew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry. I hope that you are well.

We are currently prepared to offer you the total of ?160.00 (GBP) in trade for
all of the cards listed below. Please can you let us know what you decide.

1 Thorn Elemental
3 Aura of Silence
1 Howling Mine
1 Tsabo's Decree
1 Mageta the Lion
1 Wash Out
1 Vampiric Tutor
2 Foil
1 Wildfire
2 Tectonic Break
2 Demonic Consultation
4 Skizzik
4 Blurred Mongoose
4 Kavu Titan
1 FOIL Troublesome Spirit
1 Orim's Chant

1 Void - $6.00
5 Elvish Champion
4 Tradewind Rider
4 Crypt Angel

3 Lord of the Undead
3 Two-Headed Dragon
3 Persecute
1 Phyrexian Scuta
1 Coat of Arms
2 Undermine

I also am interested in getting rid of a bulk of rares.
I am willing to offer @ your prices:
11 Planeshift Rares
36 Invasion Rares
29 7th Edition Rares
22 Other (6th/MM Block)

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-Tu Nguyen - DnSCards Single Cards Seller
-Web Address - http://www.DnSCards.co.uk
-E-mail - Buyit@DnSCards.co.uk
-Phone number UK - 07958 68 39 03
-Phone number Int- +44 (0) 7958 683 903
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Hi there,

Thank you for your sales enquiry, I hope that you are well.

The least I would let all these cards go for would be $200...and even that
is a little steep for me since I will be paying shipping costs to the UK for
these...Let me know if this is good for you or not. If not I
ll have to go by single card prices and work from there. Thanks.

If you accept $190 (USD) and it's a deal.


If you accept this sales offer then please can you send us your part of the
trade so that we may send you your payment as soon as possible.

For more details and instructions on how to send, please visit...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/buysandtrades/howtosend.htm

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Please can you Print and Include this invoice with your payment/cards. Don't
forget to make sure that your return address is included too!

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-Tu Nguyen - DnSCards Single Cards Seller
-Web Address - http://www.DnSCards.co.uk
-E-mail - Buyit@DnSCards.co.uk
-Phone number UK - 07958 68 39 03
-Phone number Int- +44 (0) 7958 683 903
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Hi there Andrew,

Thank you for your email.

Hmm, I will take either $200 cash or $240 credit, you can let me know which you
prefer and I will ship as soon as I get your answer. Also supply me with the
address to send to. Thanks.

I would prefer $230 trade credit, no more. If this is fine with you then please
let me know.

For details on how and where to send, please visit...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/buysandtrades/howtosend.htm


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-Tu Nguyen - DnSCards Single Cards Seller
-Web Address - http://www.DnSCards.co.uk
-E-mail - Buyit@DnSCards.co.uk
-Phone number UK - 07958 68 39 03
-Phone number Int- +44 (0) 7958 683 903
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Hi there Andrew,

Postal Address: xxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx

Thank you for your trades enquiry. I hope that you are well.

We regret to inform you that we are currently out of stock of Urza's Rage andso
have made you a trades offer based on this. Please can you let us know what you
decide.

Misc
28 7th Edition Rares - $21.00
3 Apocalypse Rares - $2.25
13 Planeshift Rares - $5.85
37 Invasion Rares - $16.65
32 Other - $6.40

Artifact
1 Coat of Arms - $4.50
1 Grafted Skullcap - $1.00
1 Static Orb - $4.50

Gold and Split
1 Void - $5.50

White
1 Worship - $3.75
3 Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero - $9.00
4 Swords To Plowshares - $4.00

Blue
2 Tradewind Rider - $6.00
4 Troublesome Spirit - $6.00
3 Rising Waters - $4.50

Black
4 Crypt Angel - $6.00
3 Lord of the Undead - $11.25
2 Nether Spirit - $10.50
3 Persecute - $13.50
1 Vampiric Tutor - $4.50
1 Tsabo's Decree - $3.75

Red
3 Two-Headed Dragon - $9.00

Green
1 Thorn Elemental - $1.50
5 Elvish Champion - $11.25

For our cards listed...:
4 Spiritmonger - $47.96
4 Pernicious Deed - $41.96
2 Prophetic Bolt - $11.98
4 Misdirection - $29.96
2 Opposition (Destiny) - $11.98
2 Tithe - $7.50
1 Bribery - $4.49
4 Dodecapod - $3.00

Grand Total: $188.81

If you accept this trade offer then please can you send us your part of the
trade so that we may send you your order as soon as possible.

For more details and instructions on how to send, please visit...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/buysandtrades/howtosend.htm

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Please can you Print and Include this invoice with your payment/cards. Don't
forget to make sure that your return address is included too!

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-Tu Nguyen - DnSCards Single Cards Seller
-Web Address - http://www.DnSCards.co.uk
-E-mail - Buyit@DnSCards.co.uk
-Phone number UK - 07958 68 39 03
-Phone number Int- +44 (0) 7958 683 903
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Hi there Andrew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry. I hope that you are well.

Well I just did the math and I have come up with this:

Total of my part of the trade: $172.15
Total of your part: $158.83

I feel this is a bit unfair towards me, and to even the trade up, I would
ask one of two things, your choice:

Okay if you take out the following cards then it will be okay with us.

You take out...

4 Swords to Plowshares
1 Vampric Tutor

Please let us know what you decide.

If you accept this trade offer then please can you send us your part of the
trade so that we may send you your order as soon as possible.

For more details and instructions on how to send, please visit...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/buysandtrades/howtosend.htm

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

Please can you Print and Include this invoice with your payment/cards. Don't
forget to make sure that your return address is included too!

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-Tu Nguyen - DnSCards Single Cards Seller
-Web Address - http://www.DnSCards.co.uk
-E-mail - Buyit@DnSCards.co.uk
-Phone number UK - 07958 68 39 03
-Phone number Int- +44 (0) 7958 683 903
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Hi there,

[/quote]

On 2001-08-02 18:50, N-Drew wrote:
DnSCards..we worked out a trade a while back, and I sent my cards 2 weeks ago. I
have not heard from you and you have not been answering my messages on IRC.
Please let me know what is going on by e-mail or messaging me on IRC. My e-mail
is UNC4L@hotmail.com and I can give you a copy of the trade and shipping
arrangements if needed. Thanks.

[/quote]

Please can you list the trade and I will look into the matter for you.


Dinh Tu Nguyen

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Hi there Adrew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry, I hope that you are well.

Hello. This is Andrew Saad and we worked out a deal (My IRC nick is N-Drew).
Everytime I see you on IRC, I get no reply and I posted in your forums. I sent
my part of the deal about 2 weeks ago and have heard NOTHING from you
since...please let me know what is happening. If you are trying to rip me
off..@ least tell me so I can report you to The Better Businesses Bureau. Reply
ASAP. Thanks.

Maybe the first thing you should have done was email us at this address? We do
not always check our msgs in time.

With regards to the trade. Please can you send us a list of the trades offer and
we will investigate further into the matter for you.

Finally, we do not take kindly to threats.


Dinh Tu Nguyen

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Hi there Andrew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry, I hope that you are well.

We regret to inform you that we have not recieved your cars, this is why you
have not heard anything from us.

Please can you confirm that you have sent your cards to...

DnSCards
778A Alum Rock Road
Ward End
Birmingham
B8 2TE
England

which can also be found at...

http://www.dnscards.co.uk/buysandtrades/howtosend.htm

We hope to hear from you soon.


Dinh Tu Nguyen

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Hi there Andrew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry, I hope that you are well.

Well, I have sent my cards, and I am looking @ the receipt from the post office
right now. They were sent out on 7/16/2001 and it has been a little over a
month now. I am either sure I am being ripped off or you recieved it without
noticing it came. I am going to give a week for the cards "to come"...if I
don't hear anything from you by then I'm going to have to report you to Bad
Traders or MOTL to try and work things out. I hope we can resolve this as
friendly as possible. Thanks.

Firstly, we do not take threats kindly. If cards have been lost getting to us
then this is not our fault and we are under no obligation to correct this. We
will however try our best to replace any orders we have sent out that have been
lost.

Please can you reply to this email with a complete explanation of what has
happened so far and we will try our best to resolve this matter as soon as
possible.

Dinh Tu Nguyen

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Dear Andrew,

Well, we worked out a deal on IRC @ first. It was all ready to go, but then we
decided to add on. We finalized the deal on IRC and I sent out my ENTIRE part
of the deal via USPS to the address on your site. Then here I am waiting to
recieve my cards and it has been a MONTH. Also, I realize you do not take
kindly to threats, but if I send $200.00+ worth of cards and recieve nothing in
return, I consider it something to be reported. Also, if an entire copy of the
trade is needed, I can provide one @ request. Please let me know.

If you have send these cards using a registered delivery service then may we
suggest that you contact them and enquire on the status of your package.

Dinh Tu Nguyen

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Dear Andrew,

Thank you for your trades enquiry, I hope that you are well.

Comments: I once again write to you, because there has been to reply. I sent my

We have replied to all enquiries you have sent us.

cards for a trade about 6 weeks ago, and you say "I haven't gotten them." Your

This is becuase we still have not recieved them.

trade board no longer works, and I am becoming suspicious that you may be

On the contrary, our Message board is still up and running well.

ripping me off. You have also stopped contacting me. I am going to go ahead and


Why should we contact you?

bring MOTL into this and see if they can help resolve this. Please write me and


Please go ahead and contact MOTL and tell them exactly what has happened and not
just according to you but what has really happened, I am sure they will
understand the situtation and that you have no grounds.

tell me what is going on with your side of things. Thanks.

We we still haven't recieved your cards but are still recieving threats from
you. What else is there for us to do?


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DYNAMITEUK
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posted September 17, 2001 04:31 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for DYNAMITEUK Click Here to Email DYNAMITEUK Send a private message to DYNAMITEUK Click to send DYNAMITEUK an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
First off u say that there have been sevral complaints against him on his boards when there has only been this one:
Author Bad Trader Report - DnSCards
fred


Joined: Aug 24, 2001
Posts: 1 Posted: 2001-08-24 13:15
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I sent him over $200 worth of cards back in July in exchange for some hot Invasion cards. I have never received a thing and Tu denies ever having received them - despite me using insured mail and obtaining a signature.

DO NOT TRADE WITH DNSCARDS!!!!!!!

Which looking at the date and what u say in it makes it look alot like u.U say u sent it registed but yet u havent posted any proof on that and u also say u have a sig from him which tu replied to on his board and said if u did have that proof u would be compenstated up to £1000 yet u never replied to which im sure u would have done if u had the proof that u said u did.

 
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Dear Drew,

Your false accusations are outrageous! Firstly we have not recieved any of your cards! Secondly if you had sent your cards using registered delivery as stated then surely it is tracked and you will have our signature as proof. This is something I have asked you to look into but you have not only bad mouthing out business.

Concerning our trades message board. We did not shut it down, we had actually moved host. You can now find it at...

http://DnSCards.mtgpc.com

I assume you already know this as you have used our new message board. So knowing this why have you accuse us of shutting down our trades section?

I have pasted below our correspondence below for those who are interested.

Please can you refrain from posting anymore false accusations or further actions will be taken from ourselves.

------------- Correspondence concerning missing mail -------------

On 2001-08-24 13:15, fred wrote:
I sent him over $200 worth of cards back in July in exchange for some hot Invasion cards. I have never received a thing and Tu denies ever having received them - despite me using insured mail and obtaining a signature.

DO NOT TRADE WITH DNSCARDS!!!!!!!

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Please do not accuse people unless you have proof. We have not recieved the cards you "said" you have sent. If you have sent these cards using insure/registered mail as you have stated then you should...

A. Have our signature as proof.

B. Be compensated up to £1000.

Of course if all this is a lie then you will have neiter.

- DnSCards

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posted September 19, 2001 08:43 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Please post the scan which you claim you have.
 
DrewS
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posted September 21, 2001 08:16 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for DrewS Send a private message to DrewS Click to send DrewS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
First off...that one post by the guy named Fred was not me. Second, the link to the thingy from the post office is at http://members.aol.com/NCSportinBalla/usps.jpg . Please let me know Wayne.

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wayne
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posted September 22, 2001 02:11 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
DrewS: You should ask the Post Office staff to trace that package...
 
wayne
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posted October 03, 2001 06:12 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I need an update on this.
 
DrewS
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I went to the post office today and the lady said the cards were sent out I also finally got my reply from Better Businesses Bureau, but they said there are no BBB's there. They told me to contact the English Council in England or the United Kingdom Embassy in America. I am also wondering if I should file for mail fraud? Let me know wayne.

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wayne
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posted October 07, 2001 10:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
The fact that the cards were sent out mean nothing. What I want to know is whether the cards reached Mr Dinh or did the cards get lost? If the cards got lost, the Post Office should compensate you. Since the package was registered, the Post Office has to be able to trace it. How are you going to file for mail fraud when you cannot prove that the other party got your cards???
 
DrewS
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Alright, I just had surgery on my leg, but I will contact the post office ASAP and update on this. Thanks wayne.
 
wayne
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posted October 20, 2001 12:03 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Could I have an update on this?
 
DrewS
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After making a visit to the post office, I was told that the cards HAD arrived to their destination. What should I do now?

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wayne
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posted October 30, 2001 02:31 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Ask the Post Office to provide proof that the stuff did reach the other party(since the other party would have to sign for it). Also, you can also scan the registered mail slip.
 
wayne
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posted November 06, 2001 01:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
This will be closed if I do not get an update.
 
wayne
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This has taken a very long time and there has been no progress or sufficient evidence, case closed. E-mail me if you have any further concerns.
 

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