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Author Topic:   Bad Trader: Richard Desjardins, richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com
jlfons
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posted September 06, 2001 03:12 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for jlfons Click Here to Email jlfons Send a private message to jlfons Click to send jlfons an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Ok se here´s how things happened:

I made a trade with Richard about 3 months ago the trade was my:

2 rages
1 BB glorious anthem

his:

FOIL Molimo
FOIL Atalya
FOIL Mageta

I sent first by certified mail, he got the cards in about 2 weeks, then he sent his cards (he didn´t send certified when one of the rules of my post says to send certified)and the cards never, ever arrived.

I wrote him several emails throughout this period, we had contact and then after about 3 months of waiting I told him that his cards never arrived. Well he said there was nothing he could do and that he wouldn´t send my original cards back because he had already sent and that it wasn´t his fault that I hadn´t received. As it is known under rule 8 of this forum it is the responsability of the sender to guarantee the cards arrive safely. If he had sent certified, maybe all of this wouldn´t have happened.

Well the point is I have tried contacting him and telling him that I would report him and told me " I do not care, do what u like,I have alreaady sent and I will no longer answer ur emails" and that was that...

I have written him more emails afterwards but he hasn´t responded and I´m afraid he never will.

So this is why I am reporting Richard Desjardins as a bad trader, hope the mods can help me with this, here´s the evidence (from the bottom up):


Evidence of trade:

Final email received 08/31/01

do what you want
your the first person who has ever had a problem with me not sending in
about 100 trades
also i find a little strange that you never even email me until i emailed
you asking if you had got the cards, to me that sounds like your trying to
take advange of me and saying they are still on your want list is easily
manipulated so is not even remotely beleiveable
once the cards leave my hands they are out of my control

From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:34:00 -0500

Well, since I never received the cards u sent me, proof of which is that
those cards are still in my wants section of my post, then I can say that u
have effectively RIPPED me, and as such I´m reporting u as a bad trader.
Just one thing before I do that: please look at rule #8 of the link I´m
going to send u so u can confirm that u are in fact ripping me and that the
quotes:
"im sorry but as far as i am concerned my half of the deal is done and i
will no longer answer you emails" which u yourself mentioned is totally
ridiculous since u are responsible of getting me the cards until I receive
them, and once again I tell u, I haven´t received them, so please, once
again, respond to me and let´s work something out to solve this problem. I
expect a response from u at the last on friday, if u do not respond, I will
have to report u as a bad trader, so let´s avoid that situation and lets
work this out, lmk

Juan Luis

PS: here´s the link
http://forums.magictraders.com/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=4&
Start=2451494.99&End=2452640&Session=


----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:03 PM
Subject: RE: magic


im sorry but as far as i am concerned my half of the deal is done and i
will
no longer answer you emails


From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:57:42 -0500

Hey Richard, u still haven´t answered me back regarding our unfinished
trade, please respond back so we can finally settle this, LMK

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: magic


i have no proof that you didn't receive the cards so as far as iam
concerned
we are done dealing
From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:25:11 -0500

So what will happen? u sent by normal air mail didn´t u? That´s the
problem
when sending by that shipping method, cause if they get lost then u
can´t
do
anything, that´s why I always use either certified or priority
mail.

Well when this happens there are 2 choices, u either send me other
cards
or
the same cards again or u send me back my original cards. It is
very
unfortunate the trade wasn´t completed since I was looking forward
to
those
foil legends a lot, but unfortunately this situation does happen so
what
will we do to solve this problem?

LMK on this issue

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 5:49 PM
Subject: RE: magic



there is nothing i can do all i know is i sent them and you
didnt
get
them

From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:34:28 -0500

Well my friend I have bad news for u, I still haven´t received
my
cards
and
since it´s been more than 2 months already I think they might
have
gotten
lost, LMK what we will do about this matter

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:02 PM
Subject: RE: magic


i sent them days after i got the cards you sent me and i
have
not
had
them
sent back


From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:48:23 -0500

so do u know what happened to my cards? it was this address
right?:

Juan Luis Lopez Fons
PO BOX 107-10
C.P. 97111
Merida, Yucatan
Mexico

LMK ASAP what do u think happened to them, or if they have
been
returned
to
u or whatever, thanx and LMK

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: magic


that was the correct address


From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins"
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 17:01:19 -0500

please check and LMK since it´s been a while and I
haven´t
received
ur
cards
yet

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:27 PM
Subject: RE: magic



that doesnt look like the addy i sent to i'll check
ifg
i
have
the
other
addy

From: Juan Luis López Fons
<jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins"
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:28:26 -0500

NO I still haven´t which is really strange since u
sent
more
than
2
months
ago (May 9th). Did u send registered? To what
address
did
u
send
to?:

Juan Luis Lopez Fons
Calle 55# 331 x 44 y 46 Col. Villas la Hacienda
Merida, Yucatan
Mexico
C.P. 97119

or to this address?:

Juan Luis Lopez Fons
PO BOX 107-10
C.P. 97111
Merida, Yucatan
Mexico

LMK what´s up with this so I can know what´s up
with
my
cards,
thanx
and
LMK

Juan Luis
----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: magic


have you got the cards yet


From: Juan Luis López Fons
<jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins"
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:46:56 -0500

Hi, I was wondering what happened with our
trade
since
it´s
been
almost
two
months since u said u sent them (May 9th) and I
still
haven´t
received
them,
please LMK through what method u sent by and
LMK
to
which
address
u
sent,
please LMK ASAP sinnce it´s been way too long
and
I
still
haven´t
received
them, thanx and LMK

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:51 PM
Subject: RE: magic



they cam registered today so i will send
today
or
tomorrow
feel
free
to
use
me as a ref

From: Juan Luis López Fons
<jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins"
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:05:18 -0500

yes I did send them to that address, I sent
them
may
9th
so
they
should
arrive shortly, LMK when u get em

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: magic



i check my mail daily and i have noty
got
your
cards
yet
did you send them to this address
richard desjardins
2462 beverly st
duncan B.C. Canada
V9L 3A1
i should check if my neigheor got the
cards
it
has
happened
before

From: Juan Luis López Fons
<jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins"
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:09:31 -0500

Have u received my cards yet? LMK

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:58 PM
Subject: RE: magic



i would like you to send first
my address is
richard desjardins
2462 beverly st.
duncan B.C. canada
V9L 3A1

From: Juan Luis López Fons
<jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins"
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: magic
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:35:17
-0500

ok so let´s do the trade, since u
have
more
refs
I
guess
I´ll
have
to
send
first, unless u agree on a simul
sending,
anyways
here´s
my
address:

Juan Luis López Fons
Calle 55# 331 entre 44 y 46 Colonia
Villas
la
Hacienda
Mérida, Yucatán
Mexico
C.P. 97119

Please send me yours and a
confirmation
of
the
trade
and
tell
me
if
u
prefer
I send first or a simul send, thanx
and
LMK

Juan Luis

----- Original Message -----
From: richard desjardins
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:46
PM
Subject: Re: magic



sure i still have the cards
send me ryour refs and addy
my refs are at
www.magictraders.com/reflist/banjocko

From: Juan Luis López Fons
<jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx>
To: "richard desjardins"
<richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com>
Subject: magic
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:55:16
-0500

Hi, I was wondering if u were
still
interested
in
this
trade:

"i will offer my foil mageta,
molimo
and
atyla
for
2
rages
and
1
saga
glorius anthem
email me plz"

If u are still interested we
could
go
ahead
with
it
since
i
am
ready
to
trade the rages now, thanx and
LMK

Jlfons












 
jlfons
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posted September 07, 2001 11:33 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for jlfons Click Here to Email jlfons Send a private message to jlfons Click to send jlfons an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
So this post has been up for a few days and I haven´t heard nothing from Richard or the mods, hope u can help me out, thanx
 
wayne
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posted September 09, 2001 09:38 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
E-mailed him
 
jlfons
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posted September 12, 2001 12:27 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for jlfons Click Here to Email jlfons Send a private message to jlfons Click to send jlfons an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hey Wayne, first of all thanx a lot for helping me out with this problem. U said u emailed him, what did he tell u. Please keep me updated, thanx again
 
banjocko
Banned
posted September 12, 2001 03:00 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for banjocko Click Here to Email banjocko Send a private message to banjocko Click to send banjocko an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i'm sorry i dont have regular and consistant access to a computer so i couldnt reply to your post
i did send all the cards on time and i'm sorry that you didnt get them but once i mail them there is nothing i can do if they don't reach you
the only thing i'am guilty of is not sending registered mail
 
shadowizar
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posted September 12, 2001 03:11 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for shadowizar Click Here to Email shadowizar Send a private message to shadowizar Click to send shadowizar an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View shadowizar's Have/Want ListView shadowizar's Have/Want List
No actually what you are guilty of is mail fraud. You have his cards, he does not have yours. Once you agreed to the deal you are legally responsible to ensure your stuff arrives, just like any other company that deals over the Internet.
 
jlfons
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posted September 13, 2001 07:51 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for jlfons Click Here to Email jlfons Send a private message to jlfons Click to send jlfons an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Thanx for the help shadowizard, I´m currently in arrengements with him, i´ll keep u updated, thanx again

jlfons

 
wayne
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posted September 14, 2001 10:40 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
shadowizar: Thanks a lot for helping out.

jlfons: Please keep me updated.

 
wayne
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posted September 22, 2001 02:14 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I need an update.
 
wayne
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posted October 03, 2001 06:13 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I need an update
 
magicplayer736
Banned
posted October 03, 2001 12:50 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for magicplayer736 Click Here to Email magicplayer736 Send a private message to magicplayer736 Click to send magicplayer736 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
hey man, i hope everything works out for you
 
wayne
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posted October 12, 2001 10:53 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Final warning, I need an update.
 
banjocko
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posted October 15, 2001 03:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for banjocko Click Here to Email banjocko Send a private message to banjocko Click to send banjocko an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i sent the cards last week he should have them soon
 
wayne
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posted October 22, 2001 09:30 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Update me please.
 
wayne
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posted October 30, 2001 02:41 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Please update me on the current situation or else this post will be closed.
 

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