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Topic: Bad Trader: Richard Desjardins, richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com
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jlfons Member
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posted September 06, 2001 03:12 AM

Ok se here´s how things happened:I made a trade with Richard about 3 months ago the trade was my: 2 rages 1 BB glorious anthem his: FOIL Molimo FOIL Atalya FOIL Mageta I sent first by certified mail, he got the cards in about 2 weeks, then he sent his cards (he didn´t send certified when one of the rules of my post says to send certified)and the cards never, ever arrived. I wrote him several emails throughout this period, we had contact and then after about 3 months of waiting I told him that his cards never arrived. Well he said there was nothing he could do and that he wouldn´t send my original cards back because he had already sent and that it wasn´t his fault that I hadn´t received. As it is known under rule 8 of this forum it is the responsability of the sender to guarantee the cards arrive safely. If he had sent certified, maybe all of this wouldn´t have happened. Well the point is I have tried contacting him and telling him that I would report him and told me " I do not care, do what u like,I have alreaady sent and I will no longer answer ur emails" and that was that... I have written him more emails afterwards but he hasn´t responded and I´m afraid he never will. So this is why I am reporting Richard Desjardins as a bad trader, hope the mods can help me with this, here´s the evidence (from the bottom up): Evidence of trade:Final email received 08/31/01 do what you want your the first person who has ever had a problem with me not sending in about 100 trades also i find a little strange that you never even email me until i emailed you asking if you had got the cards, to me that sounds like your trying to take advange of me and saying they are still on your want list is easily manipulated so is not even remotely beleiveable once the cards leave my hands they are out of my control From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 23:34:00 -0500 Well, since I never received the cards u sent me, proof of which is that those cards are still in my wants section of my post, then I can say that u have effectively RIPPED me, and as such I´m reporting u as a bad trader. Just one thing before I do that: please look at rule #8 of the link I´m going to send u so u can confirm that u are in fact ripping me and that the quotes: "im sorry but as far as i am concerned my half of the deal is done and i will no longer answer you emails" which u yourself mentioned is totally ridiculous since u are responsible of getting me the cards until I receive them, and once again I tell u, I haven´t received them, so please, once again, respond to me and let´s work something out to solve this problem. I expect a response from u at the last on friday, if u do not respond, I will have to report u as a bad trader, so let´s avoid that situation and lets work this out, lmk Juan Luis PS: here´s the link http://forums.magictraders.com/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=4& Start=2451494.99&End=2452640&Session= ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 6:03 PM Subject: RE: magic
im sorry but as far as i am concerned my half of the deal is done and i will no longer answer you emails From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:57:42 -0500 Hey Richard, u still haven´t answered me back regarding our unfinished trade, please respond back so we can finally settle this, LMK Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 4:31 PM Subject: RE: magic i have no proof that you didn't receive the cards so as far as iam concerned we are done dealing From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 13:25:11 -0500 So what will happen? u sent by normal air mail didn´t u? That´s the problem when sending by that shipping method, cause if they get lost then u can´t do anything, that´s why I always use either certified or priority mail. Well when this happens there are 2 choices, u either send me other cards or the same cards again or u send me back my original cards. It is very unfortunate the trade wasn´t completed since I was looking forward to those foil legends a lot, but unfortunately this situation does happen so what will we do to solve this problem? LMK on this issue Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 5:49 PM Subject: RE: magic there is nothing i can do all i know is i sent them and you didnt get them From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 15:34:28 -0500 Well my friend I have bad news for u, I still haven´t received my cards and since it´s been more than 2 months already I think they might have gotten lost, LMK what we will do about this matter Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:02 PM Subject: RE: magic i sent them days after i got the cards you sent me and i have not had them sent back From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:48:23 -0500 so do u know what happened to my cards? it was this address right?: Juan Luis Lopez Fons PO BOX 107-10 C.P. 97111 Merida, Yucatan Mexico LMK ASAP what do u think happened to them, or if they have been returned to u or whatever, thanx and LMK Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2001 5:35 PM Subject: RE: magic that was the correct address From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 17:01:19 -0500 please check and LMK since it´s been a while and I haven´t received ur cards yet Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:27 PM Subject: RE: magic that doesnt look like the addy i sent to i'll check ifg i have the other addy From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 15:28:26 -0500 NO I still haven´t which is really strange since u sent more than 2 months ago (May 9th). Did u send registered? To what address did u send to?: Juan Luis Lopez Fons Calle 55# 331 x 44 y 46 Col. Villas la Hacienda Merida, Yucatan Mexico C.P. 97119 or to this address?: Juan Luis Lopez Fons PO BOX 107-10 C.P. 97111 Merida, Yucatan Mexico LMK what´s up with this so I can know what´s up with my cards, thanx and LMK Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:13 PM Subject: RE: magic have you got the cards yet From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2001 21:46:56 -0500 Hi, I was wondering what happened with our trade since it´s been almost two months since u said u sent them (May 9th) and I still haven´t received them, please LMK through what method u sent by and LMK to which address u sent, please LMK ASAP sinnce it´s been way too long and I still haven´t received them, thanx and LMK Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 4:51 PM Subject: RE: magic they cam registered today so i will send today or tomorrow feel free to use me as a ref From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:05:18 -0500 yes I did send them to that address, I sent them may 9th so they should arrive shortly, LMK when u get em Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 5:04 PM Subject: RE: magic i check my mail daily and i have noty got your cards yet did you send them to this address richard desjardins 2462 beverly st duncan B.C. Canada V9L 3A1 i should check if my neigheor got the cards it has happened before From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:09:31 -0500 Have u received my cards yet? LMK Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:58 PM Subject: RE: magic i would like you to send first my address is richard desjardins 2462 beverly st. duncan B.C. canada V9L 3A1 From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: magic Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:35:17 -0500 ok so let´s do the trade, since u have more refs I guess I´ll have to send first, unless u agree on a simul sending, anyways here´s my address: Juan Luis López Fons Calle 55# 331 entre 44 y 46 Colonia Villas la Hacienda Mérida, Yucatán Mexico C.P. 97119 Please send me yours and a confirmation of the trade and tell me if u prefer I send first or a simul send, thanx and LMK Juan Luis ----- Original Message ----- From: richard desjardins <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> To: <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: magic sure i still have the cards send me ryour refs and addy my refs are at www.magictraders.com/reflist/banjocko From: Juan Luis López Fons <jlfons@fonssaint.com.mx> To: "richard desjardins" <richardwdesjardins@hotmail.com> Subject: magic Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 18:55:16 -0500 Hi, I was wondering if u were still interested in this trade: "i will offer my foil mageta, molimo and atyla for 2 rages and 1 saga glorius anthem email me plz" If u are still interested we could go ahead with it since i am ready to trade the rages now, thanx and LMK Jlfons
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jlfons Member
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posted September 07, 2001 11:33 AM

So this post has been up for a few days and I haven´t heard nothing from Richard or the mods, hope u can help me out, thanx
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wayne Member
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posted September 09, 2001 09:38 AM

E-mailed him
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jlfons Member
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posted September 12, 2001 12:27 AM

Hey Wayne, first of all thanx a lot for helping me out with this problem. U said u emailed him, what did he tell u. Please keep me updated, thanx again
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banjocko Banned
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posted September 12, 2001 03:00 PM

i'm sorry i dont have regular and consistant access to a computer so i couldnt reply to your post i did send all the cards on time and i'm sorry that you didnt get them but once i mail them there is nothing i can do if they don't reach you the only thing i'am guilty of is not sending registered mail
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shadowizar Member
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posted September 12, 2001 03:11 PM
  
No actually what you are guilty of is mail fraud. You have his cards, he does not have yours. Once you agreed to the deal you are legally responsible to ensure your stuff arrives, just like any other company that deals over the Internet.
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jlfons Member
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posted September 13, 2001 07:51 PM

Thanx for the help shadowizard, I´m currently in arrengements with him, i´ll keep u updated, thanx againjlfons
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wayne Member
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posted September 14, 2001 10:40 PM

shadowizar: Thanks a lot for helping out.jlfons: Please keep me updated.
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wayne Member
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posted September 22, 2001 02:14 AM

I need an update.
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wayne Member
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posted October 03, 2001 06:13 AM

I need an update
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magicplayer736 Banned
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posted October 03, 2001 12:50 PM

hey man, i hope everything works out for you
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wayne Member
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posted October 12, 2001 10:53 PM

Final warning, I need an update.
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banjocko Banned
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posted October 15, 2001 03:58 PM

i sent the cards last week he should have them soon
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wayne Member
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posted October 22, 2001 09:30 AM

Update me please.
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wayne Member
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posted October 30, 2001 02:41 AM

Please update me on the current situation or else this post will be closed.
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