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Author Topic:   Bad Trader: Erik Tuitman (ThaTuiT on MOTL), etuitman@planet.nl
benetton
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posted September 03, 2001 08:18 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for benetton Click Here to Email benetton Send a private message to benetton Click to send benetton an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I started a deal with this guy. Since he lives in The Netherlands and I live in Belgium (max 300 miles away), I expected the cards to arrive very fast. A week later, I haven't received anything, so I send him an email to ask him if he sent the cards. His answer:
i havent send them the deal is off sorry

Therefore, I put him on the bad trader alert list. According to MOTL rules, if he fails to provide a good reason for cancelling the deal without notification, he risks a Rules violations-3 Karma.

Just to let the moderators know, I will leave on Thursday on Holidays for one week, thus I won't be able to answer any email. I'll be back around 15 Sept.


Evidence of trade:

i havent send them the deal is off sorry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benoit Passot" <benoit.passot@eudoramail.com>
To: "erik tuitman" <etuitman@planet.nl>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: Trade on MOTL


Hi!

I haven't received the Birds, when did you send it?

Cheers

Benoit
--

On Wed, 22 Aug 2001 09:37:04 erik tuitman wrote:
the shape is fine i just got it from a 7th booster

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benoit Passot" <benoit.passot@eudoramail.com>
To: "erik tuitman" <etuitman@planet.nl>
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: Trade on MOTL


Ok, here's mine:

Benoit Passot
Rue de l'Angelique, 1
1348 Louvain-la-Neuve
BELGIUM

You still haven't told me the shape of the Birds of Paradise...

Cheers

Benoit
--

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 22:42:23 erik tuitman wrote:
sure give me your address here is mine

erik tuitman
carderie 25
3142ba maassluis
Netherlands
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benoit Passot" <benoit.passot@eudoramail.com>
To: "erik tuitman" <etuitman@planet.nl>
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: Trade on MOTL


Hi!

Ok, so the deal would be my:
3 Mana Flare (one French!)
1 Cho-Manno, Revolutionary (French! but only EX+)
1 Thran Golem
4 Ramosian Sergeant
4 Ramosian Lieutenant
4 Ramosian Captain
4 Ramosian Commander

Since I have 78 refs, will you accept to send first? You can vew my
refs
here:
http://refs.magictraders.com/benetton.html

Also, which condition is your Birds of Paradise in?

Cheers

Benoit
--

On Tue, 21 Aug 2001 17:33:07 erik tuitman wrote:
OK leave it the way it was then i'd rather have 1 mana flare
instead
of 2
swords to plow shares

----- Original Message -----
From: "Benoit Passot" <benoit.passot@eudoramail.com>
To: "erik tuitman" <etuitman@planet.nl>
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 11:38 AM
Subject: Re:


I cn add 2 Swords to Plowshares, but then I'll remove a Mana
Flare
(the
fact that you estimate the rebels looow doesn't change much, since
I
estimate them very low too).

Please let me know!

Cheers

Benoit
--

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 10:50:41 erik tuitman wrote:
hi this is abouyt your offer for my birds i like your trade but
i'd
like
to say that i consider all the rebels as throw ins sooooo i'd like
either
2
swords to plowshares or 1 worship with the trade mail me

 
wayne
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posted September 08, 2001 02:28 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
E-mailed him.
 
ThaTuiT
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posted September 10, 2001 01:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for ThaTuiT Click Here to Email ThaTuiT Send a private message to ThaTuiT Click to send ThaTuiT an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
yep it's right but i couldn't give a good reason because my server went down since it has been repaired i can reply here is my reason my poor little brother and i have had a bad fight. as a result he has thorn apart most of my good cards birds scuta and port so i cant trade them anymore i am very sorry bout that. but i got 100 dollars form my parents to buy them back so i might have them back in a while but i wont trade them with you
 
wayne
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posted September 21, 2001 11:17 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
benetton: any comments?
 
benetton
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posted September 21, 2001 12:58 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for benetton Click Here to Email benetton Send a private message to benetton Click to send benetton an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
wayne: It all depends on whether you think he has a good reason or not. I think not, I think he just thought of this reason to avoid the karma reduction...

According to me, this is a typical example of a guy who dropped a deal without notification, thus deserving a karma reduction...

 
wayne
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posted September 25, 2001 02:42 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for wayne Click Here to Email wayne Send a private message to wayne Click to send wayne an Instant MessageVisit wayne's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I've decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. After all, excuses like that can only be used once... AIM/ICQ/e-mail me if you have any further concerns regarding this case or trading habits.
 

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