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Topic: Ripper: Nik Alan motl name is NiKaLaN1982, XXooNIKALANooXX@aol.com
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TheGreatBaboshka Member
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posted October 22, 2001 03:46 PM

nevermind I already filed it__________________ -Mr.Baboshka-
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TheGreatBaboshka Member
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posted October 22, 2001 03:49 PM

I just recived an e-mail from Saturn014@aol.comIt said this hey there i just wanted to let you know that mail > fraud charges have been > filed for nik alan and there not going to do > anything about it because thats > not his real name his real name is jason rocha i > know him he lives in > kalamazoo he got thrown out of the place he was > staying at because of this > also the cops have been called on him but with no > proof that thats who he is > they said thay cant do anything the last i knew he > moved to the traler park > with his girlfrien ill look into getting is new > address if you want it i know > where she lives just not the same street ow by the > way hes 19 if you want you > can call his ex roomate at this number for more > information (EDIT) > ow by the way i know this all to be true because ive > booster drafted with him > at his house while he was useing the name Nik Alan > thanks I edited out the number he left. If you would like it e-mail me at TheBaboshka@yahoo.com
__________________ -Mr.Baboshka-
[Edited 1 times, lastly by TheGreatBaboshka on October 22, 2001]
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TheGreatBaboshka Member
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posted October 22, 2001 04:12 PM

AWWWW **** I FILED MAIL FRAUDD BUT PUT THE WRONG STATE!@@!!!!!111111
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[P] Member
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posted October 22, 2001 10:53 PM
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TheGreat..... whats your E-mail address?
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TheGreatBaboshka Member
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posted October 23, 2001 08:20 AM

TheBaboshka@yahoo.comIm not sure who exactly this Satan guy is. Im gonna run ask a mod to run an IP check on his name to see if it matches with anything that has to do with nick alan or whoever he is __________________ -Mr.Baboshka-
[Edited 1 times, lastly by TheGreatBaboshka on October 23, 2001]
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Dragonfreak Member
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posted October 23, 2001 12:14 PM

.....Gee, I never thougth something like this could happen....guess I'm too naive...
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ubercat Member
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posted October 24, 2001 11:34 AM

I have good news!I've made contact with Jason Rocha (alias Nik Alan, Mark McKinnley, etc. . .) via telephone. The telephone number and address I currently have for Jason et al. is: Jason Rocha 231 North Sage St Kalamazoo Township, MI. 49006 tele: (616) 382-5065 I suggest that each of you give him a call AND report his new address to the proper authorities (I guess you'll need to re-file a claim). I'm going to contact the owner of the address listed to confirm that he indeed lives there. More to come. . . ubercat
[Edited 1 times, lastly by ubercat on October 24, 2001]
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ubercat Member
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posted October 24, 2001 02:13 PM

OK - I just talked with Josh, and he also has good news. I don't want to talk out of turn, so I'll let him tell you.Please move forward with mail-fraud charges, and report the address listed in the post above - Jason has absolutly zero remorse, and even worse, he's tried to pin some of his actions on the crew from MI. This guy needs to spend some time in a cell, thinking about what he's done. You can find all the information you need to file charges against Jason Rocha in the post by Inca. I'd like to appologize to Beta, Pugz, and the rest, for being such a bulldog. The MI. crew has really gone out of the way and they deserve our thanks. Inca too. If you need an assist with filing mail-fraud against Jason I'd be glad to help. Also, if you need anything else, please feel free to email me. I'll continue to follow-up. Let's hope that this is the last of it. ubercat
[Edited 1 times, lastly by ubercat on October 25, 2001]
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TKC Member
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posted October 24, 2001 02:54 PM

I can't belive this has anyone gotton their cards b/c i never got mine which was a moat, tundra, and 4x plateaus Some guy emailed me though and said taht he had the cards he said he had this left:send me an e-mail with your adress, i don't know what he ows you with what he had left, here is the list: beta regrowth beta dragon welp serra angel pyrezombie unlim camoflague send adress asap and youll get some stuff back. I'm sorry if it isn't what you wanted or need but soemthing is better than nothing right? his email address was DocSneeky@aol.com did anyone else get an email from him? LMK.
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[P] Member
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posted October 25, 2001 05:29 AM
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Thanks for all this, Ravidell. Id like you to keep a "force of will", to pay for the shipping and time youve spent on this. Hope you others will offer him some too, as this guy has saved us from lots of trouble. Thanks again.
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MTGPugz Banned
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posted October 25, 2001 07:00 AM

Get it right ubersnatch, its not Plugz
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ubercat Member
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posted October 25, 2001 07:05 AM

Thanks again Riv!OK - let's make a list. Who has filed mail- fraud charges against Jason? I'd like to stress that this post is being read by many of the members on MOTL (non-members too), and if all of the people who have been ripped report him to the authorities an example will be set. Do you and your Magic comminuty a favor - REPORT HIM! It only takes a few minutes - there is NO reason to not file. FYI: You can find a postal inspector near you who can help more with your problem: http://www.usps.com/ncsc/locators/find-is.html You can use this link to an online Mail Fraud form and file your mail fraud complaint in a couple minutes!: http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm There is even a toll-free number that you can call to obtain help! 1-800-372-8347 Mail Fraud Hotline ALSO - you can report him to the FBI in the event you got ripped across state lines. I'll post that addy tonight. PLEASE, do what's right! ubercat
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ubercat Member
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posted October 25, 2001 07:11 AM

quote: Originally posted by MTGPugz: Get it right ubersnatch, its not Plugz 
Who me? I guess I've seen it misspelled so many times. . . 
ubersnatch
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Cayro Member
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posted October 25, 2001 12:25 PM

Do you happen to have my cards by chance? It was 2x Force of Will and an Absorb. He ripped me with his Mckinnley name.
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Dragon Keeper Banned
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posted October 25, 2001 07:25 PM

I saw the post you made (ravidell) and was wondering if you have any of the cards that he was supposed to send me or the ones I sent him. Our trade was supposed to be:My: 1 Beta Cyclopean Tomb (NM) 1 Beta Copy Artifact (EX) 1 Mishra's Factory (spring) 1 Mishra's Factory (summer) 1 Maze of Ith 1 Signed Ice Age Jester's Cap (EX) 1 Sliver Queen 1 Foil Shivan Reef 1 Foil Suffocating Blast 1 Foil Desolation Angel 1 Foil Spiritmonger For his: 1 Unlimited Timewalk signed by Richard Garfield (NM) 2 English Mana Drain (1 NM, 1 has some Whitening) 1 Alpha Underground Sea (mint condition) I checked with the Canadian Post office and someone there tracked down my cards and confirmed that he signed for them. They sent me a letter saying that he did. That was on August 24th, 2001. Please e-mail me back to LMK about this. Thanks for all your help with this. Thanks, Craig.
__________________ While it's true most Dragons are cruel, the Shivan Dragon seems to take particular glee in the misery of others, often tormenting its victims much like a cat plays with a mouse before delivering the final blow. I will take ANY dragon. In any "REAL" edition and most resonable conditions.
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Cayro Member
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posted October 26, 2001 12:18 AM

How much you wanna bet this 'new member' is nik alan reincarnated?  http://forums.magictraders.com/ubbmisc.cgi?action=getbio&UserName=Xx+KwazyAsianInvas ion+xX http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/089187.html Time to add another name to his identity list.
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MTGPugz Banned
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posted October 26, 2001 03:05 AM

May i ask how you know that is him?He gave what he supposedly had left of his cards to ravidell and im not sure he would have enough cards to make a new have / want list. Just my opinion, but if you guys can post why you think its him then go ahead.
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[P] Member
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posted October 26, 2001 03:23 AM
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quote: Originally posted by MTGPugz: May i ask how you know that is him?He gave what he supposedly had left of his cards to ravidell and im not sure he would have enough cards to make a new have / want list. Just my opinion, but if you guys can post why you think its him then go ahead.
Im not saying I know its him, BUT: You dont really need any cards to make a have-list, do you? 
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MTGPugz Banned
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posted October 26, 2001 03:25 AM

P, the reason that he gave up his cards is because he doesn't want to get into legal troubles over cards.I HIGHLY doubt he is going to use MOTL to rip again.
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ubercat Member
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posted October 26, 2001 06:23 AM

Umm, with all due respect Riv, not all people are getting thier cards back. In fact I think only a few people are getting all of what they sent. If Jason doesn't want to 'get in trouble' for this situation (that he created) he should get up off his lazy, shiftless *** and get a job so he can PAY these people back. In my estimation he's fallen WAY short of doing the right thing.So again, I urge you to report him to the FULLEST extent of the law. If you got ripped, and you didn't get all your cards/cash back - BUST HIM! If you don't report him you are not only doing a dis-service to yourself, you're doing MOTL and your Magic community a dis-service. ubercat
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ChImOrIc IdOl Member
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posted October 26, 2001 07:04 AM

Just to let you know, since we're writing it, it's not slander. It's libel. Just to let everyone know. Libel is writen or printed, slander is said. The only reason I'm saying this is to set everyone strait on their legal terms.__________________ Neither a borrower nor a lender be: For loan oft loses both itself and a friend; And borrowing dulls the edge of husbandry. --Polonius, to his son Laertes. Hamlet, Prince of Denmark, Act I, Scene III
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MTGPugz Banned
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posted October 29, 2001 02:14 AM

I agree, Jay is out of cards, everyone who responded is getting at least something back, and you all know how to file mail fraud, theres nothing left to do.Except.... Close this post. -Pugz
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ubercat Member
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posted October 29, 2001 06:53 AM

quote: Originally posted by ravidell: UBERCAT: my user id is ravidell. so the abreviation would be RAV. not riv. thanks.
Sheesh, you cats from MI are so touchy about your handles - maybe you should have come up with something more catchy. 
Sorry about the Rav. See you cats on the boards, ubercat
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malzra Member
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posted October 29, 2001 11:57 AM
  
I got my cards from Ravidell that jerk off had. He is such a great guy for going out of his way to get back as much of our stuff as he could. I really apriciate what he did for me. Thank you Rav, and crew. -Derek
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ubercat Member
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posted October 30, 2001 06:59 AM

As I understand it, Ground was ripping too. One of the cats on this thread has had some problems with him - looks like it's been 'solved'.ubercat
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