MOTL GUYS plz do something about this ripper who has make much inconvience to me
apparently he has cleared his accounts here making the deal over motl with him but i still have it over email and he made me fooled as he said he owned a shop i thought i wouldnt get ripped now im wrong
apparently this guy also had 2 email accounts and also has 2 motl accounts the email which i sated above is the main 1 we use over the net to trade
as ill be going overseas in 5 days time and be coming back in 1 weeks time ( going overseas for 2~3 days )i wish we can settle this fast
his 2 email accounts r :
XXooNIKALANooXX@aol.com
&
NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net
motl moderators plz look into this case and read my evidence carefully and ull find out ive been ripped inside out !!
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Evidence of trade:
this is wat he offered me :
Thu, 09 Aug 2001 07:29:25 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com
Subject: offer for MOTL
how about your:
1 Foil Birds of Paradise
4 Rishadan Port
4 Mox Diamond
4 Spiritmonger (all chinese)
for my:
1 Timewalk signed by Richard Garfield
1 Foil Masticore
2 Non Foil Masticore
2 Morphling
1 5th Edition Bird of Paradise
Please let me know if you want to do this trade or not. thank you
but said no and made him another offer :
From: XXooNIKALANooXX@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 01:06:59 EDT
Subject: Re: plz read! motl trader gexter
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com
4x spiritmonger ( all chinese )
4x mox diamond
4x mystic snake
4x rishadan port
1x cursed scroll
2x lightning angel
1x foil death grasp
1x foil desolation angel
2x serra avatar (chinese)
FOR :
1 beta mox sapphire
yeah that sounds like a good trade my address is
nik alan
4608 wimbleton way
kalamazoo mi 49009
now they trade above which the cards i send i might have left out some cards but im sure tat those which i mention abbove r there for sure!
next :
From: XXooNIKALANooXX@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 06:29:00 EDT
Subject: Re: plz read! motl trader gexter
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com
yes. that looks great. I will send monday, no problem. My address is:
Nik Alan
4608 Wimbleton Way
Kalamazoo, Mi 49009
USA
Thank you for the trade as well.
only one thing.... when you put my sapphire in a deck and you play it, I ask
of you to say the following :
"this is for you Nik!" (tradition)!!!!!
Pleased to trade with you
Nik
after this trusting tat he send his cards i decided to make another trade with him since he said he own a shop in US
the next trade :
From: XXooNIKALANooXX@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 11:42:11 EDT
Subject: Re: gex here need another trade
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com
I can give you:
2 morphling
1 timewalk
1 ancestral recall
1 moat
4 force of will
1 mana drain? (I will throw this in since I'm such a nice guy!
will you do that for:
1 UL MOX SAPPHIRE ( NM ) ***************
3 x skizzik
4x millstone ( 1 7th ed 2 revised or ul 1 4th ed)
1x phyrexian colossus (saga)
1x Quirion Dyrad (chinese)
4x overtaker
3x treachery
1x skyship weatherlight (chinese )
1x devouring strossus
1x abeyance
1x avatar of fury
2x bribery
1x abundance
+1 city of brass (NM) signed by mark tedin and he drew
on it (its damn cute and its quite rare!)<--- value
(60 ~70)
+1 undermine
+1 urza's rage
but i didnt like it and made him a counter offer which was final and asking him several time after the day i send my cards he said yes he did and the evidence is right below this sentence:
From: XXooNIKALANooXX@aol.com | Block Address | Add to Address Book
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 03:38:54 EDT
Subject: Re: gex here need another trade
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com
This is our trade, and yes I did send out my cards
Did you use priority mail to make it faster??
1x UL MOX SAPPHIRE ( NM ) ***************
3x skizzik
4x millstone ( 1 7th ed 2 revised or ul 1 4th ed)
1x phyrexian colossus (saga)
1x Quirion Dyrad (chinese)
4x overtaker
3x treachery
1x skyship weatherlight (chinese )
1x devouring strossus
1x abeyance
1x avatar of fury
2x bribery
1x abundance
1x city of brass (AN SIGNED BY MARK TEDIN ADN FEW
PICTURES DRAWN ON THECARD BY HIM <--- QUITE RARE!!)
1x undermine
1x urza's rage
Nik's:
1 timewalk
1 ancestral recall or mox pearl
2 mana drain
2 morphling
3 force of will
after 5 days after this mail while im still waiting for my cards i suddenly recieve a email saying he moved his place :
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:01:34 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE:
Hello, I'm sorry for the delay. I just moved into my new apartments for
college. Yes, that was the deal and I already sent so please send
monday so we can get are cards around the same time.
thank you!
Nik Alan
6412 Mallow St.
Kalamazoo, Mi 49009
after this i question him if i send it to a wrong place and he said :
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 20:27:10 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE: RE:
it's okay. I check my mail every couple of days there. Don't worry
about it. I will email you when I get your cards. Thank you for your
concern and email me when you get mine as well. Thank you! Nik
7 days later i mailed him asking if he recieved my mail as i knew he would as its already 15 dasy and my mail should reach him latest 10 days as the guy working at the post office told me i should arrive there in about 5 ~ 10 days and this is wat he said :
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2001 19:45:43 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE: RE: RE:
sorry dude i havent received your cards yet but as soon as i do ill let
you know
now 1 day later he emailed me :
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 14:37:05 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE:
im sorry to inform you but i think your cards have been sent back to
you as i was out of town when they came if you get them back tell me ill
give you my new addy so we can do the trade sorry for the inconveience
but thats the problem when the package is to big it wont fit in a mail
box
now knowing ive been ripped i started a new subject and started the question him. his excuse?? the mail was too big !!
:
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:54:22 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE: plz read......
listen this is what i said there is a package at the post office that
was to big for my mail box it wouldnt fit and since i dont live there i
cant pic it up so yes its going to be retured to sender im sorry dont
mail such big packages is all i can say what do you want me to do i wish
i was there to get it but i wasnt im sorry
after reading this mail ive knew i was ripped giving him the chance the send me the cards he replyed me with :
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2001 15:56:05 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE:
sorry i wish i could go doen to the post office and check but i cant i
dont live in that town anymore
well now wat i wanted to know if did he or did he not send his part of the trade when he said he did send and he used PRIORITY! man this is ridiculous plz read
:
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 05:30:47 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE: RE: plz read......
NO i did not send my cards
leslie wong <sephirothowns@yahoo.com> wrote:
so the buttom line is did u or did u not send ur cards
(( mox sapphire time walk ancestral reczall mana drain
etc.etc.) jus answer YES O"R NO
after this its confirmed ive been ripped i gave him warning if he didnt send his cards i would report him and wat did he send me ?
:
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 20:48:16 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE: RE: RE: plz read......
well you know what it sux to be you thats the chances you take i dont
feel sorry for you if you dont have a comfirmation number saying you
sent than its not my problem dont bother me with it later
i gave him another chance and him mailed me with an stupid answer :
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 05:21:54 -0400
From: NiKaLaN1982@netscape.net | Block Address | Add to Address Book
To: sephirothowns@yahoo.com (leslie wong)
Subject: RE: RE: RE: RE: plz read......
listen here @sshole there at the post office its not my problem so go
f@ck yourself
leslie wong <sephirothowns@yahoo.com> wrote:
sorry to dissapoint u but i do have a reciept confimation number and a
paper with all the stuff written tat can prove it did send it to u 3
weeks ago u got 1 more chance either i recieve it on by weds 10 am or
ull be posted with all the evidence and even the last mail u gave me
saying u couldnt care i proves ur a ripper and trust me i do have wat u
call a confimation number
by weds i dun cee it ill provide a scan to motl and ull be in trouble
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he scolded me and wasted 1 month of my time as ill be going overseas in 5 days time and be coming back in 1 weeks time ( going overseas for 2 ~ 3 days )i wish to solve this matter quick
if this is not enough evidence i have 2 receipts and 2 print outs proving tat i have send the 2 sets of my part of the trade
and if it is still not enuff im willing to give U MOTL GUYS my email acct adn password jus for u to check
plz investigate more into this ASAP!
if u guys can check his ex-account on motl itll show u tat ive did main him an offer in his h/w list apparently its gone now ( boout 2 weeks since i came on motl )
i am going to end this post here ill be checking it everyday till i go overseas and will check it again when i come back