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Topic: Ripper: T.J. Offenbacker, markpamkids@voyager.com
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 12, 2001 11:20 AM

It's been 4 weeks and no sign of him or his cards after many emails .Also, I spelled the email wrong. markpamkids@voyager.net not .com His MOTL alias: teeje
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Poor Beggar on August 14, 2001] Evidence of trade:hey al, i dont remember what trade we were making, if you give me your member name i will know. I will Simul Send just as long as i dont send first. ----- Original Message ----- From: Al Elmendorf <poorlittlesucker_00@hotmail.com> To: <markpamkids@voyager.net> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:12 PM Subject: Address My address is:
Al Elmendorf 16 Summit Dr. Peru, NY 12972 Send me your address. I prefer if we simulsend however. Poor Sucker
Our trade was my 4 Hyppies and 4 Megrims for your 4 Rages Simulsend means we send at the same time, though. ok, we can simul send. I have your address. My address is: T.J. Offenbacker ***************** ***************** T.J. Offenbacker 10352 Main Street Lewisburg OH 45338 i will send my cards whenever you send yours, let me know when you expect to send out. He never sent.
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Tiny Banned
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posted August 12, 2001 01:01 PM

it sucks but you kinda should have seen it coming, cuz if he actually would have sent you would have been HORRIBLY ripping that guy off rages are 10$ cards 4x10=40$ hyppies and megrims are 1-2$ cards so you were trading about 10$ for 40$ and your cards were uncommons. but it does suck tho
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 12, 2001 02:53 PM

I see what ya mean, Tiny, but I originally asked for 2 Rages, not 4.
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 14, 2001 07:44 AM

Will ANYONE look at this? Please? 
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 15, 2001 07:37 AM

Recieved a foil swamp from him today. That was not what I needed from him. What should I do now
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irsih31 Banned
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posted August 15, 2001 08:26 AM

He tried to get me to send first on a mox he said he had..so hes still trying to rip. Im sorry to hear for your loss, try and pursue this if you can, any assistance I can be of, ill provide.Jay __________________ irsih31 Pygmy's build characterTrade me your WILD RESEARCHES, I collect them, and have decent stuff to trade for them!!
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squizz Member
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posted August 18, 2001 09:24 PM

I've emailed him, please lmk if you hear anything and I'll do likewise.
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 19, 2001 08:42 AM

I'm going to return the foil swamp tomorrow. Emailing him again.
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teeje Member
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posted August 19, 2001 08:58 AM

hey, this is teeje. this al elmendorf guy wanted to trade me a totally stupid deal. I told him to let me know whan he would send his cards but he never replied back and then i never received his cards. So i went ahead and sent the cards and i even sent a foil swamp so i couuld get a possible 5 ref. i never make people send first, i just post that on my post so that only serios traders will reply (i make an exception for moxes, wouldn't you). this guy thought i had sent so he totally backed out of the deal, i thought he was trying to rip me. once he found out that i hadn't sent he started e-mailing me about never sending. sorry for any inconvenience that our trade has caused. teeje
__________________ I am the master of all things and I am the persuader of new things. I wish of Giant Blue Trampling Creatures and Great Green Fliers. At the moment i am working on green ketchup.
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 19, 2001 06:35 PM

For starters, I DID email you when I sent. If my cards didn't arrive, I'll replace them, but I can't be sure. And also, you didn't have to accept the deal. You should have just made an offer of your own. I just try to make an offer and see what happens. I just offered someone 2 Dromar's Charms for a Cetavolver (Those things can be powerful against rebels). If you want, we can do another deal, if you want to. Also, the swamp was the ONLY thing in the envelope, which had a small tear in the corner, but not enough for a card to fall through, unless it was folded in half.
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teeje Member
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posted August 19, 2001 08:10 PM

you only received the swamp? you got the letter, but only got the swamp? ok how can you blame me for rippin when you got the package? are you proposin that i cut a whole in my envelope?
  __________________ I am the master of all things and I am the persuader of new things. I wish of Giant Blue Trampling Creatures and Great Green Fliers. At the moment i am working on green ketchup.
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 20, 2001 08:40 AM

No, I don't think you did. I find it confusing since you never recieved either. Since I don't like foils, and we both got burned on this trade, I'll return the swamp. Amazing how crappy the postal service is. I'll try doing another deal with you, and see what happens. Also, I agree on big green fliers, but for giant blue tramplers, there's Polar Kraken.
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squizz Member
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posted August 24, 2001 05:05 AM

quote: Originally posted by teeje: hey, this is teeje. this al elmendorf guy wanted to trade me a totally stupid deal. I told him to let me know whan he would send his cards but he never replied back and then i never received his cards. So i went ahead and sent the cards and i even sent a foil swamp so i couuld get a possible 5 ref. i never make people send first, i just post that on my post so that only serios traders will reply (i make an exception for moxes, wouldn't you). this guy thought i had sent so he totally backed out of the deal, i thought he was trying to rip me. once he found out that i hadn't sent he started e-mailing me about never sending. sorry for any inconvenience that our trade has caused. teeje
Ok maybe I'm reading this wrong but you seem to be contradicting yourself...first you say you had sent the cards and then you say you didn't. Quite obviously you sent a foil swamp, since it doesn't appear the envelope was damaged in the mail it would seem that was all you sent. Since Poor Beggar is returning the swamp and you haven't received his cards there is not much I can do to help here, you can either drop the trade or work out a new one.
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 24, 2001 08:08 AM

Thanx Squizz. Hey Teeje, tell me when the swamp gets back to you.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Poor Beggar on August 24, 2001]
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted August 30, 2001 02:07 PM

Swamp was returned to me, as I must've entered the zip code wrong or something. Trying again tomorrow.__________________ I WORSHIP VALMTG!
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squizz Member
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posted September 12, 2001 08:41 AM

PoorBeggar has this been resolved? Please lmk if it has.
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Poor Beggar Banned
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posted September 13, 2001 02:35 PM

I've sent the swamp, but haven't heard anything from teeje. Another thing just occured to me. Since the swamp was returned to me, and I had a return address on the hyppies and megrims, wouldn't they be returned to me?
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squizz Member
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posted September 21, 2001 10:11 PM

Mail that doesn't get delivered may or may not get returned, it really depends on what goes wrong. If the envelope was damaged and somehow the return address wasn't legible it might not be returned.
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