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Topic: Bad Trader: Me, sokpuppet@hotmail.com
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SockPuppet7 Member
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posted July 30, 2001 08:02 AM

Alright, I am posting this because lately, I have had a lot of problems with trades, and I figured someone would probably report it, so I'll save them the effort. I just figured out what has been happening. Lately we have been getting several letters from bill collectors about past-due bills, yet we had sent every one of them. Well, just yesterday, my brother was going to go get the mail, so he looked out the window to see if the flag was still up so he would know if the mailman came yet, and he saw 2 kids from down the street taking the mail out of our mailbox. We have had many problems with these kids in the past and ever since me and my friend got in a fight with them, it has gotten much worse. My dad is going to call and report it to the police station tomorrow around noon or so. I'm really sorry about all that is going on, and I will try to have it resolved as soon as possible. I would like any mod to reply to this, so I can see what I should do and if I am going to get in any trouble. Thanx everyoneOh yeah, if I traded with you, please reply
[Edited 1 times, lastly by SockPuppet7 on July 30, 2001] Evidence of trade:I don't need evidence.....
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wayne Member
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posted July 30, 2001 08:33 AM

You won't get into trouble as long as you complete your trades, keep me updated on this.
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umengine Member
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posted July 30, 2001 10:00 AM

Sock, I currently have a trade with you. As the moderator says, I don't have any problem as long as you still hold up your end of the trade. Thanks.
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cooberp Member
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posted July 30, 2001 01:11 PM

I was checking this forum repeatedly to see if anyone had posted anything about you, but I am glad to see that you are at least consistent and proactive. This was a deal for a NM Mox so the stakes are pretty high, but I will sit tight as long as this thread remains active. Thanks for being responsible.
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Rumor Member
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posted August 02, 2001 03:33 PM

Like many others I also have a trade going with you, for really high stakes. Obviously I have contacted you repeatedly because I am worried about the status. If however you are either willing to send me the proposed cards, OR return the Mirror Universe I sent you, all will be fine. I sympathize for your current predicament and hope all gets settled ok.Blake
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SockPuppet7 Member
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posted August 03, 2001 06:53 AM

Alright, I have talked to the people that have been taking the cards, and they admitted to taking some of them, but they have denied taking all the cards that i was sending, and at first they told me they had an ali from cairo that I traded for, and when I went over there to get them the next day, they denied it. I have gotten back every card that I traded for (except ali from cairo) but they denied taking my cards that I was trading. What am I supposed to do about my cards and the ali from cairo? Could a mod plz reply to this ASAP?
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Leon Phelps Member
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posted August 03, 2001 01:38 PM

I made a trade w/you... my foil shivan wurm and foil phyrexian scuta for your beta tundra and beta tropical island...did you send them out to me? let me know via e-mail nervegasu@aol.com Leon Phelps __________________ E-mail Address - NeRvEGaS U@aol.com AIM Handle - NeRvEGaS U MOTL Handle - Leon Phelps "Thanks to this new program I am on, I no longer carry a firearm into math class, Thanks Sylvan Learning Center!"
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SockPuppet7 Member
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posted August 04, 2001 12:44 AM

Geez...the one time I finally need a mod, they wont reply...
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wayne Member
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posted August 09, 2001 02:16 AM

Hmm, mods are human beings too, we are not robots(surprising eh?). I regret to inform you that the sender is responsible for what he sends. Therefore, you either have to replace what you were supposed to send or negotiate a compromise with the other party. I sympathize with you but there is nothing much the mods can do to help you.
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jesters Banned
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posted August 09, 2001 08:32 AM

hei where's my cards i haven't received them and i email u and got no reponse?
__________________ Lv. 1 DCI certificated judge for MTGneed to buy spiritmonger, vindicates , deeds, or apoc foils click http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/014353.html
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SockPuppet7 Member
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posted August 09, 2001 11:24 AM

Hey Wayne, if I go by what you said, then that means that they are still responsible to get their cards to me too...
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gbs3769 Member
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posted August 09, 2001 01:56 PM

quote: Originally posted by SockPuppet7: Hey Wayne, if I go by what you said, then that means that they are still responsible to get their cards to me too...
Just a thought for you, since it seems to be a continuing problem. Take all of your stuff to the Post Office or to a USPS Mailbox when you are sending. And make sure that the people that send to you send with Delivery Confirmation. - Matt __________________ Matt Tobia AIM: TobySU03 gbs3769@hotmail.com Ref-list H/W List #2 Poster in Syracuse, NY (Does anyone live in Syracuse, NY?)
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SockPuppet7 Member
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posted August 10, 2001 09:31 AM

I've been doing that ever since this happened
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wayne Member
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posted August 10, 2001 10:14 AM

Yep, on MOTL, the sender is responsible for what he/she sends.
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SockPuppet7 Member
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posted August 10, 2001 02:22 PM

Wayne, thanx for clearing that up for me, here's what's going on: I never got any cards from the MOTL member "Jesters" and I never recieved the Ali from Cairo from Dan Rosenhec. Everything else is now in my possession, so I will be sending it back as soon as possible. I hope that jesters and dan rosenhec will not report me as a ripper, because if I was a ripper, why even bother sending anyone elses cards back? I apologize for all that is going on, and hope to maybe trade with you all in the future, thanx!
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wayne Member
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posted August 19, 2001 11:26 AM

I need an update on the situation.
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jesters Banned
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posted August 20, 2001 05:36 AM

well so u didn't send them to me afterall? u said u got everything in your possesion means the whole set of beta dual is with u also international trade do take longer __________________ Lv. 1 DCI certificated judge for MTGneed to buy 4 birds, 4 burst, 4 FBB ports, IA painlands visit http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/014575.html
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cooberp Member
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posted August 20, 2001 06:57 AM

BS you never received my Ali from Cairo -- I have an email from you saying that you DID which I am posting below. I am still waiting to receive back my Beta Savannah as well and I have another trade pending on it so whatever is going on there needs to be cleared up FAST. I'm out a ton of money here. Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:04:29 -0500 From: Jonathan Arnold <sokpuppet@hotmail.com> To: rosenhec@fas.harvard.edu Subject: Re: did
Hello! I'm happy to report that I got SOME of the cards back. I got your ali from cairo back and I already recieved the savannah, but I couldnt get the pearl back, so I'll just have to send you your 2 cards back. Im sorry for all the problems and hope you wont report me as a bad trader because it wasnt my fault. If u add me to your ref list I will reply because you fulfilled your end of the bargain. Thanx! >From: Dan Rosenheck <rosenhec@fas.harvard.edu> >To: Jonathan Arnold <sokpuppet@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: did >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:24:10 -0400 (EDT) > >Can I give you a call this evening to clarify this? I have your number as >(817) 295-4015. > >On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > > > Well, the reason the Pearl hasnt arrived yet is that I usually put the >mail > > in the mailbox in the morning instead of taking it to the post office > > (something I wont be doing anymore) so is all they had to do was check >the > > mail the night I put the cards in the mailbox and they could have taken >them > > out. I dont know if I can really give you a timefram, because I don't >know > > how long it will take for the cops to do something about it, but I'm >sure > > they wont take too long. > > > > > > >From: Dan Rosenheck <rosenhec@fas.harvard.edu>
> > >To: Jonathan Arnold <sokpuppet@hotmail.com> > > >Subject: Re: did > > >Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:13:30 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > >I see...When do you think you can have this resolved? The Ali was sent > > >priority mail to the same address as the Savannah and there is no >possible > > >way it has not arrived by now. I didn't know mail theft was en vogue > > >these days...and if they are stealing your incoming mail for some >reason, > > >why wouldn't the Pearl have arrived here yet? > > >Keep me posted. I'm a little uncomfortable here, as I'm out some >pretty > > >expensive cards on this. But I'm not going to rush to do anything if >you > > >can give me some sort of a timeframe. > > > > > > > > >On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > When I got the Savannah the family was gone to their Grandma's house >in > > > > Oklahoma City > > > > > > > > >From: Dan Rosenheck <rosenhec@fas.harvard.edu> > > > > >To: Jonathan Arnold <sokpuppet@hotmail.com> > > > > >Subject: Re: did > > > > >Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 20:15:34 -0400 (EDT) > > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > >Well that does sound awfully strange, especially since you said you >got > > > > >the Savannah...I guess just keep me posted. > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 29 Jul 2001, Jonathan Arnold wrote: > > > > > > Hello, there is no need to try to trace the cards down now. I >think > > >I > > > > > > figured out exactly what happened to them. Lately we have been > > >getting > > > > > > several letters from bill collectors about past-due bills, yet >we > > >had > > > > >sent > > > > > > every one of them. Well, just yesterday, my brother was going to >go > > >get > > > > >the > > > > > > mail, so he looked out the window to see if the flag was still >up so > > >he > > > > > > would know if the mailman came yet, and he saw 2 kids from down >the > > > > >street > > > > > > taking the mail out of our mailbox. We have had many problems >with > > >these > > > > > > kids in the past and once me and my friend got in a fight with >them, > > >and > > > > >it > > > > > > has gotten much worse. My dad is going to call and report it to >the > > > > >police > > > > > > station tomorrow around noon or so, and from there, I'm sure I >can > > > > >manage to > > > > > > get the cards back. I'm going to have to explain this to about 3 >or > > >4 > > > > >other > > > > > > people that I traded with. I'm really sorry about all that is >going > > >on, > > > > >and > > > > > > I'll e-mail you back AS SOON AS I POSSIBLY CAN. I apologize >again > > >for > > > > >all > > > > > > this trouble. Please e-mail me back and let me know what's up. >Thanx
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Coolgrnmen Member
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posted August 20, 2001 11:52 AM

Hi...you and I recently had a trade....2 mint mirror universe for 1 FOIL BoP and I think it was 1 Beta Tropical Island....keep me posted!!!__________________ I will trade for RAGES(ne condition!!!)!!!and foil UNDERMINES and foil BSORBS and foil RAGES and reg. underminesLmk....
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umengine Member
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posted August 21, 2001 11:26 AM

I received this email from J. Arnold:Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 02:40:56 -0500 From: Jonathan Arnold <sokpuppet@hotmail.com> To: cbezak@engin.umich.edu Subject: Re: MOTL Hey, yes I did get your cards back, and since they denied ever taking mine, I will probably have to just send back yours. I have yet to have my cards returned or his end of the trade completed after another 3 weeks. Has any other person received cards back from this person?
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cooberp Member
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posted August 21, 2001 11:37 AM

Exactly the same, he said he'd return my cards and it's been three weeks and he hasn't. And now he's saying he didn't get my Ali from Cairo, which he told me he did in the email posted above. Mods, help -- we need our cards back!
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wayne Member
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posted August 25, 2001 10:52 AM

Please update me on the situation.
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cooberp Member
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posted August 25, 2001 11:04 AM

Update: No news to report. I am still out a Beta Savannah and an Ali from Cairo, and am getting *very* antsy.
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Coolgrnmen Member
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posted August 26, 2001 08:18 PM

this guy and i had a trade(AS POSTED ABOVE) and he has not wrote me back yet...I am getting relly tired of this and I want my FOIL BoP and Beta Tropical Island NOW!!!...MODs...please help get our cards back or get us his cards that we traded for!!!__________________ I will trade for RAGES(ne condition!!!)!!!and foil UNDERMINES and foil BSORBS and foil RAGES and reg. underminesLmk....
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Coolgrnmen on August 26, 2001]
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wayne Member
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posted August 27, 2001 07:42 AM

E-mailed him.
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