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Author Topic:   Ripper: Steve Shi, Neutral@bestweb.net
GrimSky
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posted August 04, 2001 02:17 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for GrimSky Click Here to Email GrimSky Send a private message to GrimSky Click to send GrimSky an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
BANNED !?! HA !!!! He should have his head chopped off !! Nothing less
 
lotus master
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posted August 04, 2001 09:35 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for lotus master Click Here to Email lotus master Send a private message to lotus master Click to send lotus master an Instant MessageVisit lotus master's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I will be forced to file mail fraud (and i don't want to)c'mon neutralman just complete the trade or send the cards back
 
JLoveHewitt
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posted August 04, 2001 10:49 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for JLoveHewitt Click Here to Email JLoveHewitt Send a private message to JLoveHewitt Click to send JLoveHewitt an Instant MessageVisit JLoveHewitt's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Neutralman recently made a post in General Discussion about how he recieved 1 Foil Goblin Gardner in a package where he should have recieved more cards from lotus master. Leshrac also posted on that saying he personally knew lotus master and he would never rip him off. I posted right afterwards saying he was totally ripping all of us off both ways by saying he was ripping by trying to be completely innnocent. Then I try and see if anyone replies to it and I see that its gone. I bet he deleted. Man, this guy...

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Masa&Mune
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posted August 04, 2001 10:53 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Masa&Mune Click Here to Email Masa&Mune Send a private message to Masa&Mune Click to send Masa&Mune an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I didn't know Jennifer Love Hewitt played Magic . Anyways, he is SO dead. (not literally.) Why would anyone do this? .

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lotus master
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posted August 05, 2001 08:07 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for lotus master Click Here to Email lotus master Send a private message to lotus master Click to send lotus master an Instant MessageVisit lotus master's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
i got him, he said he didn't get the cards but with the help of the moderaters i'm getting my cards back,this i find odd how before he said he didn't have the cards and then he said he did,When i get my cards , the first thing i'll do is work on getting all your cards back to you.
-Lotus master
 
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posted August 05, 2001 11:57 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow3636 Click Here to Email Shadow3636 Send a private message to Shadow3636 Click to send Shadow3636 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
lol, thanx for your concern lotus Master

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Masa&Mune
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posted August 05, 2001 12:38 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Masa&Mune Click Here to Email Masa&Mune Send a private message to Masa&Mune Click to send Masa&Mune an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
I hate his "I don't know what to do because I'm too stupid to realize that I got cards" act. Thanks lotus master!

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posted August 06, 2001 08:59 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for GrimSky Click Here to Email GrimSky Send a private message to GrimSky Click to send GrimSky an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Maybe he´s just that stupid !!! Maybe he is suffering from severe cerebral palsy. Maybe we should feel sorry for him, since hes such a spazz.

He must be very very stupid if he thinks that anyone is going to believe his lame ****ty excuses.

Well, this is what I´m left with. The small comfort I find in venting my anger on this forum !

What will I do when he´s finally put on the confirmed list, then I will have nowhere to
hate him.

STEVE SHI may you DIE (but not before you send back my cards)! Sigh

 
Masa&Mune
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posted August 06, 2001 10:17 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Masa&Mune Click Here to Email Masa&Mune Send a private message to Masa&Mune Click to send Masa&Mune an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
LOL. Calm down I'm sure this will get sorted out soon because Steve Shi is SUCH a nice guy . He hasn't responded to any of my emails.

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lotus master
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posted August 06, 2001 03:20 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for lotus master Click Here to Email lotus master Send a private message to lotus master Click to send lotus master an Instant MessageVisit lotus master's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
since he allready traded away the cards i sent him he has to re trade for them agen today he had to trade his undermine and 2 birds for my 1 death grasp back


[Edited 1 times, lastly by lotus master on August 06, 2001]
 
Neutralman
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posted August 07, 2001 08:03 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Neutralman Click Here to Email Neutralman Send a private message to Neutralman Click to send Neutralman an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Lotus Master what are you talking about? I have to trade for your cards because i never recieved them. All i got from you was a dumb foil goblin gardener.

Edit:Whoever is lying please stop. I will find wout who it is and he will get a karma smack.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Neutralman on August 07, 2001]

 
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posted August 07, 2001 08:11 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for lotus master Click Here to Email lotus master Send a private message to lotus master Click to send lotus master an Instant MessageVisit lotus master's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
sorry somone told me you did
 
Masa&Mune
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posted August 07, 2001 06:36 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Masa&Mune Click Here to Email Masa&Mune Send a private message to Masa&Mune Click to send Masa&Mune an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
. Steve has *problems* if you know what I mean lol! Anyways, is there ANYTHING we can do? This is crazy!

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posted August 16, 2001 02:48 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for squizz Click Here to Email squizz Send a private message to squizz Click to send squizz an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Ok here is an update. Leshrac has spoken to Lotus Master about this as he knows him in RL. Lotus Master's mother mailed the cards and can verify that all the cards that were supposed to be sent were in the envelope when she mailed it. It's obvious that something is going on at Neutralman's end, so here's the bottom line. Neutralman is to complete all trades that have been posted about on this thread, including the one with Lotus Master or mail fraud charges will be filed.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by squizz on August 16, 2001]
 
Masa&Mune
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posted August 16, 2001 10:02 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Masa&Mune Click Here to Email Masa&Mune Send a private message to Masa&Mune Click to send Masa&Mune an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
THANKS!!! . I'll keep you updated.

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posted August 16, 2001 07:07 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Neutralman Click Here to Email Neutralman Send a private message to Neutralman Click to send Neutralman an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Regarding Lotus master, me and him have worked it out as according to MOTL rules I have to complete the trade since I have no proof the cards werent in the mail. I could get fingerprints for the foil goblin gardener but its too much of a hassle and not worth the effort. I wish i could prove that i didnt recieved any mail from people that say I have. If i can see scans or such of confirmation that mail has arrived at my doorstep I would be willing to complete trade or compensate. I will still keep you updated if I do recieve something.

Regards,
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posted August 16, 2001 10:27 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Masa&Mune Click Here to Email Masa&Mune Send a private message to Masa&Mune Click to send Masa&Mune an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
What a liar! OMG... It is pretty unbelievable. I want my cards back dangit!

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posted August 18, 2001 02:52 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow3636 Click Here to Email Shadow3636 Send a private message to Shadow3636 Click to send Shadow3636 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Hey

I've been in Maine for the last week and I can't belive the surprise I got from this thread!! So, Steve has to send out all the cards said in the original trades to everyone, correct? LMK so I can finally get my cards. Hooray!!!!

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posted August 18, 2001 08:35 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for squizz Click Here to Email squizz Send a private message to squizz Click to send squizz an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Neutralman please re-read my earlier post. Generally there is nothing that can be done to help those who have no delivery confirmation, however, in this instance you ruined your own credibility by claiming you hadn't received lotus master's cards when proof of delivery had been obtained. All these trades are to be completed, not just the one with lotus master.
 
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posted August 18, 2001 09:46 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for SonOfYawgmoth Click Here to Email SonOfYawgmoth Send a private message to SonOfYawgmoth Click to send SonOfYawgmoth an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Neutralman has claimed to not have recieved my cards either *sigh*

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posted August 19, 2001 07:58 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Neutralman Click Here to Email Neutralman Send a private message to Neutralman Click to send Neutralman an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
??? I never said I didnt recieve lotusmasters cards, only that inside contained a Foil Goblin Gardener. If you want I can send you that card, I am sure fingerprints would match. Why should I send out cards when I have recieved none?

Edit:If squizz you are getting the impression of my saying I didnt recieve when mail delivery was confirmed by reading the above of what lotusmaster typed, that is because someone(I suspect masa and mune) e-mailed to lotusmaster and lied about me already trading the cards away(Like I could trade all of it in half a day). U can confirm this with lotus master if you'd like.

Edit once again:Shadow, let me correct myself and please excuse my grammer. I recieved the "MAIL", it was a huge envelope, which contained a smaller envelope, which contained the foil goblin gardener in a toploader and a copy of deal confirmation. To compensate for lotusmaster's card I had to trade all over to get them. You may ask lotusmaster on that.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Neutralman on August 19, 2001]

 
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posted August 19, 2001 10:44 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Shadow3636 Click Here to Email Shadow3636 Send a private message to Shadow3636 Click to send Shadow3636 an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Neutralman:
??? I never said I didnt recieve lotusmasters cards, only that inside contained a Foil Goblin Gardener

Above this post, you stated that "all you got was a dumb foil goblin gardener" from lotus master. Now, you have changed your story....dun dun DUN.........

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posted August 19, 2001 12:55 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Masa&Mune Click Here to Email Masa&Mune Send a private message to Masa&Mune Click to send Masa&Mune an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Ha yeah right. Why would I ruin my reputation by saying you would trade something that you didn't say you would? Why don't you try to finish these trades because we KNOW you got the cards you friggin' liar.

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posted August 19, 2001 11:22 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Leshrac Click Here to Email Leshrac Send a private message to Leshrac Click to send Leshrac an Instant MessageVisit Leshrac's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Steve, I'm tired of this rampant lying. You have until exactly 12:00am PDT 8-26-2001 (one week) to resolve all of these trades or you will be banned from MOTL and I will make personally sure that mail fraud charges are filed against you. I will accept no excuses and there will be no exceptions, this has dragged on for far too long already.

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posted August 20, 2001 07:41 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for Neutralman Click Here to Email Neutralman Send a private message to Neutralman Click to send Neutralman an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Sigh...ok leshrac. People may you please email me with the trades. Leshrac, please give me more than a week because right now i dont have some of the cards so I have to compensate them with something else. once people EMAIL me. Thanks
 

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