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Topic: Noble Hierarch and Maelstrom Pulse
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thighhighnylons
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posted March 17, 2010 12:38 PM
      
Hi all. Just wondering, do you guys think the prices of Noble Hierarch and Maelstrom Pulse will drop after they rotate out of type 2? If so, drop by how much? I'm trying to figure out if I want to invest in these cards now, or hold off for the time being.__________________
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yukizora
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posted March 17, 2010 12:40 PM
 
Noble hierarch: Maybe a couple dollars but not so much.
Maelstrom Pulse: Maybe down to 7-8$, or maybe less.__________________
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Eatatjoes
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posted March 17, 2010 12:46 PM
Both i can only see dropping to about 10. These are some of the few cards in type 2 that will hold any kind of value when they rotate. Noble hierarch more so.
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MAB_Rapper
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posted March 17, 2010 01:05 PM
As long as Hierarch keeps being used in Extended and Legacy, it will not drop much.__________________
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nderdog
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posted March 17, 2010 01:27 PM
Looks like another job for the Trade and Values thread. Moving this there now.__________________
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mm1983
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posted March 17, 2010 01:40 PM
$10-12 on both since they both see play in extended.
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Michael French
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posted March 17, 2010 02:12 PM
Noble Hierarch is also played in vintage
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yukizora
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posted March 17, 2010 02:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
$10-12 on both since they both see play in extended.
I have to correct this:
Maelstrom Pulse is absolutely not as played as Noble Hierarch. So there's no reason for them to drop to the same price. __________________
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Myy
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posted March 17, 2010 03:28 PM
Vindicate is around $10 so wouldn't Pulse stay above Vindicate. ?
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is it fact or fiction
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posted March 17, 2010 04:08 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
Vindicate is around $10 so wouldn't Pulse stay above Vindicate. ?
in theory yes, but not with the supply of pulses as people dump theirs after rotation, it will see a dip then probably increase over time
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bigbob585
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posted March 17, 2010 04:39 PM
If you want to know about pulse.. think of what happened to cranial extraction after rotation.. it went from a $20 card down to an $8-10 card.I see it dropping to $6-8 as pulse is 2 colored while cranial is only black.
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totalkaoz
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posted March 17, 2010 05:04 PM
Will fetches and Planeswalkers retain their value after they rotate out?
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iliketrain
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posted March 17, 2010 10:19 PM
Noble will drop a little, not that much as its played a reasonable bit in extended and legacy. I think $12
Pulse will drop quite a bit as it really seems very marginal play outside of t2. I think $7
Fetchlands will retain their value
Planeswalkers will not.
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Eatatjoes
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posted March 18, 2010 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by bigbob585:
If you want to know about pulse.. think of what happened to cranial extraction after rotation.. it went from a $20 card down to an $8-10 card.I see it dropping to $6-8 as pulse is 2 colored while cranial is only black.
Pulse actually has an effect on the state of the board. Cranial does not.
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mm1983
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posted March 18, 2010 03:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
Vindicate is around $10 so wouldn't Pulse stay above Vindicate. ?
I'd compare pulse to Vindicate which is why I said pulse would be about $10. Vindicate is in lower supply than Pulse but better in the fact that it destroys a land so with Vindicate at $11-12, outside of standard I would say pulse will be about $8.
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thighhighnylons
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posted March 18, 2010 06:37 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
I'd compare pulse to Vindicate which is why I said pulse would be about $10. Vindicate is in lower supply than Pulse but better in the fact that it destroys a land so with Vindicate at $11-12, outside of standard I would say pulse will be about $8.
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by thighhighnylons on March 18, 2010]
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stu55
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posted March 18, 2010 07:07 AM
quote:
Originally posted by mm1983:
I'd compare pulse to Vindicate which is why I said pulse would be about $10. Vindicate is in lower supply than Pulse but better in the fact that it destroys a land so with Vindicate at $11-12, outside of standard I would say pulse will be about $8.
both were 3rd set rares...i see them being about the same when it comes to supply
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Jtrade77
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posted March 18, 2010 03:26 PM
In the initial dip after rotation when extended season is NOT happening, expect Maelstrom Pulse to dip as low as $3-5 (like deed and vindicate did directly after THEIR rotation). Pulse will bounce back when a good Legacy deck or extended deck wins with it (may be a while there). Expect Hierach to stay around $7-10, since that's about what birds of paradise went for when they were no longer standard legal for a brief period of time.
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Godswill
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posted March 18, 2010 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Jtrade77:
In the initial dip after rotation when extended season is NOT happening, expect Maelstrom Pulse to dip as low as $3-5 (like deed and vindicate did directly after THEIR rotation). Pulse will bounce back when a good Legacy deck or extended deck wins with it (may be a while there). Expect Hierach to stay around $7-10, since that's about what birds of paradise went for when they were no longer standard legal for a brief period of time.
I doubt Pulse will ever go as low as $5. It just seems too good of a card to be that low. Hierarch I also doubt will see that much of a drop, probably just to the point which it was at when it was seeing marginal play in standard- $10-12 (as at this point it was already seeing some Legacy play). Hierarch will continue seeing Legacy play until CT-Progenitus becomes bad, at that point there'll probably be a slow decline in its price. Even then, like someone mentioned above, it is seeing play in Vintage (granted I am not too familiar with Vintage) so it probably has a place regardless of what happens.
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