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Topic: The post to complain about stupid card prices, part 2
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MTDetermine
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posted February 08, 2010 01:30 AM
        
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Originally posted by Michael French:
At SSG FoW is now priced at $50 for NM. Their buy price is $25.00. I think one of the reasons Vintage never took off because of people were afraid of the prices... I hope that prices don't scare people away from legacy.
Well, 1 way to play Legacy for free (Vintage is tougher). Buy 12 NM FOW for $240 total in 2009 (20 each). Sell 8 of them for $240 ($30 each) now. You got your playset of minty FOW for free! Its even better for Tarmogoyf. Buy 12 NM Tarmogoyf for $300 in 2009 (25 each). Sell 8 of them for $480 now. You got 4 Tarmogoyf and $180 cash in hand!!! Just kidding, dont take the above so seriously
[Edited 1 times, lastly by MTDetermine on February 08, 2010]
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psilence6k
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posted February 08, 2010 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by MTDetermine:
Well, 1 way to play Legacy for free (Vintage is tougher). Buy 12 NM FOW for $240 total in 2009 (20 each). Sell 8 of them for $240 ($30 each) now. You got your playset of minty FOW for free!
Don't give away the secret tech!
I've almost completed my time machine and am looking to capitalize! lol
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iliketrain
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posted February 08, 2010 01:53 PM
I think its much better to go back in time and buy stocks of google, microsoft etc.
Even better, go back in time and buy some dinosaurs, I bet they are worth a lot now.
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sdematt
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posted February 08, 2010 06:18 PM
A very nice Mastodon skeleton sold for almost a million bucks..and that's just 10,000 years old! Step 1: Kill a T-Rex, Step 2: Bury it perfectly in your soon-to-be backyard using Time Machine and shovel, Step 3: Massive profit.
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-PoX-
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posted February 08, 2010 10:25 PM
I'd just sell my time machine.
Imagine how much that's worth! Wait why do I have it then? I'd go back and buy Wastelands for 50 cents. Still wouldn't buy FoW for 5 bucks. I'm not paying 5 bucks for an uncommon, that's extortion >: (
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gathering
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posted February 08, 2010 11:39 PM
last auctions:791$ for beta Usea nm/m
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$735 for volcanic beta nm/m any "reasonable" reason ? (last BINs on volcanics : 650$, 585$
other auctions on volcanics : 527$,612$)
[Edited 1 times, lastly by gathering on February 08, 2010]
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JensK
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posted February 09, 2010 12:44 AM
there seems to be no limit to what people will pay for nm/m alpha/beta duals
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CoupDeGrace
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posted February 09, 2010 04:11 AM
Time Machine ?! u guys must be thinking too much.
MTDetermine: Goyf used to worth the most $1(in fact is below $1) during that period. That was when i bought couple of it . 
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted February 09, 2010 05:36 AM
 
That's because the duals were absolutely MINT.__________________
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incubussr
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posted February 09, 2010 06:54 AM
I picked up a pretty nice Beta Volcanic on eBay for $250 BIN about a month ago. *shrug*
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted February 09, 2010 06:58 AM
Bet it wasn't mint, though. You know what the price difference is between PSA 8 and PSA 10? Astronomical.__________________
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sdematt
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posted February 09, 2010 08:01 AM
I took a look at those duals, they were pretty much perfect. Also, if you have two guys who really want a card, they're going to stop at nothing to get that beta NM dual. I don't think there were 30 different bidders, it was probably a few duking it out. Is this the actual price for a beta sea? Hell no. I think about 400 ish is the better price, but NM fetches a premium, like Ben said. What's a NM Beta lotus worth? Like 2 grand. Whats a 9.5 BGS lotus worth? 18 grand.
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gathering
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posted February 09, 2010 08:32 AM
I kinda disagree with the condition statement:* the Usea that ended up yesterday was minty enough to get an 8 grade maybe(not even sure of that), but definitely not a 9 from what i've seen . * same for the volcanic (though there is no way to check the surface on the pics, so i maybe be wrong) ------> prolly an 8, no 9.
Reasons of these skyrocketing prices(??)
*minty looking : surely
*few guys wanting the same card really bad : probably
*the new way of pimping = upgrade basically ?? (once everything is foiled is japanese or "koreaned"...) : could be ^^ I do think people now realize that A/B duals in such condition are really difficult to find, as these are not limited/banned which means there are probably more lotus in this condition out there than blue duals. I bet people took more care of their moxes and lotus than duals over the years^^ That said, i'm not complaining as my dual collection as nearly doubled in price since those last auctions 
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TimeBeing
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posted February 09, 2010 09:13 AM
With the minty duals and older rare card i think there are people out there who are working on high grade sets.I'm trying to put to together a perfect NM+/Mint AN set. Slowly.... So that could be another source of demand.
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CubFan81
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posted February 09, 2010 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by alphataru:
I still don't understand how it can cost so much though.
This thing has almost no T2, ext use. It has limited 1.5 use. It's pretty much only at its full potential in vintage. The last normal rare that only has eternal usage that I can think of is ad nauseam, and JP foil ad nauseams don't cost this much.
The usual new set release prices applies here but another factor to consider is the potential for future use. Rize of the Eldrazi (with a head nod to Eye of Ugin) could have a larger proportion of Artifact spells (or Ghostfire type spells). The real kicker though is that the next block is rumored to be Mirrodin Pure, Scars of Mirrodin, and New Phyrexia. That would seem pretty artifact based. quote:
Originally posted by diwad:
wont goyf suposed to be reprinted anyway??
I'm sure I've said it before as have others...just because a card in Future Sight WAS future shifted doesn't mean that it WILL be reprinted. They were supposed to be cards from possible futures. So cards like Graven Cairns, Boldwyr Intimidator, and Mistmeadow Skulk made it. But a card like Goldmeadow Lookout which could only logically have gone in Lorwyn block was absent.
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PriestsofGix
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posted February 09, 2010 07:50 PM
Dark Confidant seems to be on the up-and-up as of late. He was $7-8 six months ago, now he's pushing $11 and there are sets of him (from goods-seller) on eBay hitting $70. Is this accurate and appropriate? What do you think he will settle at, given MOTL's current $11 tag?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by PriestsofGix on February 09, 2010]
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-PoX-
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posted February 10, 2010 02:17 AM
Why is Ad Nauseam so damn worthless?
Haha.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by -PoX- on February 10, 2010]
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted February 10, 2010 07:49 AM
Marginally playable in two tiny formats. Unplayable in the others.__________________
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alphataru
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posted February 10, 2010 08:30 PM
I wouldn't say being the namesake and 4-of of a top deck in Legacy "marginally playable".
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stu55
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posted February 10, 2010 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by alphataru:
I wouldn't say being the namesake and 4-of of a top deck in Legacy "marginally playable".
Namesake = $0 in worth and value of a card... It has 0 casual appeal, and the deck hasn't done anything recently and that is basically the only place the card is played and that helps show that being in a Legacy doesn't mean the card will drive up in price
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted February 10, 2010 08:49 PM
Who cares? There are dozens upon dozens of viable decks in Legacy. Ad Nauseam is what, tier 2 or 3 at best? If it starts making top 8s maybe the card will jump out of the bulk box.__________________
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alphataru
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posted February 10, 2010 08:58 PM
I take it you don't play legacy.
I didn't say ANT is a "viable deck", I said ANT is a top deck. As in one of the top 5 decks in legacy. Look, it's pointless to debate it, I'm not talking about the value of the card, just discounting your claim that its "marginal". When you said one of the top 5 decks in a format is "marginal", "Tier 2 or 3", that means you don't know what you're talking about. It's fine, but again, we don't need to debate it, it's a matter of fact.
Legacy statistics:
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?16023-DTB-status
Top 8 appearances:
http://www.deckcheck.net/list.php?main=Ad+Nauseam
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-PoX-
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posted February 10, 2010 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Tha Gunslinga:
Who cares? There are dozens upon dozens of viable decks in Legacy. Ad Nauseam is what, tier 2 or 3 at best? If it starts making top 8s maybe the card will jump out of the bulk box.
It constantly makes top 8s
http://www.deckcheck.net/format.php?format=Legacy Clicking through the legacy decklists, just about every top 8 connected to any deck has some ANT deck in it. But it's not a 4 of in them. Just surprised it's basically a bulk rare haha. I mean COME ON. Bah. That just seems like a card there's no possible way won't end up restricted at some point.
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stu55
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posted February 10, 2010 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by alphataru:
I take it you don't play legacy.
I didn't say ANT is a "viable deck", I said ANT is a top deck. As in one of the top 5 decks in legacy. Look, it's pointless to debate it, I'm not talking about the value of the card, just discounting your claim that its "marginal". When you said one of the top 5 decks in a format is "marginal", "Tier 2 or 3", that means you don't know what you're talking about. It's fine, but again, we don't need to debate it, it's a matter of fact.
Legacy statistics:
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?16023-DTB-status
Top 8 appearances:
http://www.deckcheck.net/list.php?main=Ad+Nauseam
You might want to work on your English reading comprehension skills because where did I say it was "marginal" as you put it? I said it hasn't done anything recently. A good friend of mine T8'd Chicago with it so I know what it does. It is the same reason Mind's Desire has never been expensive, it is only good in narrow strategies...man, learn to read.
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alphataru
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posted February 10, 2010 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by stu55:
You might want to work on your English reading comprehension skills because where did I say it was "marginal" as you put it? I said it hasn't done anything recently. A good friend of mine T8'd Chicago with it so I know what it does. It is the same reason Mind's Desire has never been expensive, it is only good in narrow strategies...man, learn to read.
Ironically, you are the one who should work on your reading comprehension skill.
Protip: Ctrl + F --> marginal
You're welcome.
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