So I obviously had no reason to catch up with the game because I had been keeping up with it from the start, correct? I was misleading you by making you think I had not kept up with the game or something? I was just using all of this to stay low?

Boy, you and Monty both have some good points. But, IMHO, I find you slightly more suspicious when you add that you're not really playing in character this round. You've pretty much gone out of your way to NOT be as combative as you usually are. You don't usually last this long in a game, because people lynch you for the way you play.

Right now, my vote stands on fwy. But, again, I would be very interested to hear MW and cait's take on this new information.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

Right now my top suspects are fwy, Bruised, Cat.

I am a Villager,

Jaz,

I have played a decent game this round, I have not got into it with anyone except for PD (Slightly) but he goes off the deep end when no one is listening or reading, I know I gotten it by him many times for my inaccuracies... and your self too lol. But yeah I feel I played not to shabby this game in the sense I never got myself lynched earlier then usual, but my downfall is always defending myself or my suspicions...I have gotten compliments on my play as of late and won't change back to the old me rippin heads off everytime Im accused...

Monty,

I based the majority of my suspicion on TMB's play not your. But you seem to take high offense to this. With Xpr within reach to lynch you, and with my voicing my suspicion on you, you seem to just slip by and under. Why so many have layed suspicion and ground work upon you have severly changed their minds to me is a wow factor. this to me as you have turned my own suspicion upon me, is a play of OMGUS.

Player A: Vote B, reasons.
Player B: Those reasons are illegitimate and scummy. Vote: A.

Example:

John wrote:
Vote: Jane for rolefishing.

Jane wrote:
Vote: John it is absolutely in town's interest to clarify precisely what Joe was saying there. Attacking me over it is antitown and scummy.

You both will see that I was a Villager, and my questions to you are:

@ Jaz and Monty: Who, Before the night kill will you suspect or eventually vote for next round.

-Caitiri

EDIT: Nevermind, fwy. MM listed BB as voting TMB, but BB claims to have really voted BoT....

quote:

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Ok, It may just stick to this, and as my final post:

I am a Villager,

Jaz,

I have played a decent game this round, I have not got into it with anyone except for PD (Slightly) but he goes off the deep end when no one is listening or reading, I know I gotten it by him many times for my inaccuracies... and your self too lol. But yeah I feel I played not to shabby this game in the sense I never got myself lynched earlier then usual, but my downfall is always defending myself or my suspicions...I have gotten compliments on my play as of late and won't change back to the old me rippin heads off everytime Im accused...

Monty,

I based the majority of my suspicion on TMB's play not your. But you seem to take high offense to this. With Xpr within reach to lynch you, and with my voicing my suspicion on you, you seem to just slip by and under. Why so many have layed suspicion and ground work upon you have severly changed their minds to me is a wow factor. this to me as you have turned my own suspicion upon me, is a play of OMGUS.

Player A: Vote B, reasons.
Player B: Those reasons are illegitimate and scummy. Vote: A.

Example:

John wrote:
Vote: Jane for rolefishing.

Jane wrote:
Vote: John it is absolutely in town's interest to clarify precisely what Joe was saying there. Attacking me over it is antitown and scummy.

You both will see that I was a Villager, and my questions to you are:

@ Jaz and Monty: Who, Before the night kill will you suspect or eventually vote for next round.

Thank you.

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I did mention that I prefered a bruised vote this round, right? I have a vote submitted for fwy, but I switch to bruised in a heartbeat. It just kinda feels like all of the wolves/mafia before him and he is going to let us all fight amongst ourselves and NOT SAY ANYTHING

Fwy- I am starting to believe that you are a cit. The problem is that I am 100% positive that I am a cit, and the only other option at this moment aside from myself is you. I don't know what I have to do to convince you that I am a cit, but if we keep fighting and you are a cit then it isnt going to end with a win for us.

Now- If enough people will switch to bruised, I will too. We need what? 3 people to possibly get him lynched?

I would much rather vote bruised here and him be a cit and have the "possibility" that fwy is a wolf and played a really great game, then us to kill fwy and then another cit next round and have bruised win because he is playing silent.

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
I don't mind voting Bruised. Is there still time to switch?

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Do we want this??? It may be too late.

go head and vote for Bruised , Monty and MW

leave jaz and Cait to vote for me and see what happens after that

there will be a choice to be made!

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
I would love to switch my vote but that would leave me in the game and raise even more unneccesary doubt for the Village. My lynch would seal me as a Villager and leave a remaining WW in play it would only be fitting if I sac my self and narrow the suspicion.

Do we want this??? It may be too late.

go head and vote for Bruised , Monty and MW

leave jaz and Cait to vote for me and see what happens after that

there will be a choice to be made!

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The HWW was afk early on. I don't understand how everyone continually overlooks this fact. Some people have even pointed out it would be too easy for Monty to be the wolf, but god I would feel <WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED> if you guys let him slide and it seems like the easiest most provable fact out of all this useless pandering and speculation.

Vote still Monty

Thanks,
Jazaray

__________________
A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

Fwy has handled us coming after him correctly. Bruised has not been playing the game. I would rather lose to fwy playing a good game then bruised not playing at all. Bruised has added almost nothing to the conversation. His last post is almost as ridiculous as him not posting.

If we lynch fwy this round, then next round nobody is going to talk and we have a 25% chance to hit a wolf off of luck. I think our best bet is to lynch bruised here, either we win or we get rid of one more person not going to talk, narrow the field even more, and we will have more information to work with to try to make out final pick.

So far it should look like this, but I'm not sure:

2 on Bruised-
2 on Montague-
2 on fwy-

We know the lag shred in the first round TOOOOOK Forever. here are the ones who post before MM made it know he was waiting on the NK.

Cait - January 29, 10 @ 12:40 AM MOTL Time

quote:

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Originally posted by Cait:
Family reunion this weekend. I may have internet, but probably not a ton of time. I'll be back Sunday night, so expect to hear from me minimally or not at all until at least Sunday night.
-Caitiri

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Fwy - January 29, 10 @ 8:44am

quote:

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Originally posted by Fwy:
Its my opinion that MM do a recast of all roles...
this is totally "WOW"!

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Bruised - January 29, 10 9:22AM

quote:

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Originally posted by Bruised:
I am sure that the Wolves are just being dramatic in order to give my first game the maximum amount of suspense, or they just don't check PM's, ever.

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MM January 29, 10 @ 1:06 PM

quote:

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Originally posted by MM:
Just checking in, and no kill from the WW's as of yet :/
~MM

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Note these are all before MM posted he was still waiting, IF one of us were the HWW we could have easily sent in a PM to MM. Tho I stated it may be a Smoke Screen earlier I am now feeling this was Lag.

So from this post to the NK at 2:15 PM one person alive atm moment who posted in between the time MM stated no shred has been given to the NK is MasterWolf

his posts:

MasterWolf January 29, 10 @ 1:07pm

quote:

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Originally posted by MW:
Suspect:
TheMidnightBomber
Caitiri (nvm, didn't see his post)
Edit: Can someone else help me locate those who have been AWOL over the last 2 days? We might get an easy R1 Mafia lynch.

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Then @

MasterWolf January 29, 10 @ 1:34 PM

quote:

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:

Never heard that one before.

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45 mins later a Shred.

NOW I know that doesnt mean he is the HWW but it adds to his suspicion.

Jaz's first post is January 29, 10 @ 3:55 pm

no suspects but her random vote as per usual.

TMB first post after the NK came @ January 30, 10 @ 7:54 AM

quote:

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Originally posted by TMB/Monty:
Normally I look for this sort of post. To already have a list of 3 suspects round one is uncommon, and being a wolf makes that much simpler. In this however, PD's reasoning is sound, since the wolf kill was late you should suspect those with low attendance. For this reason it's somewhat more interesting that he didn't bring up Morbid for example.

As a side note, I was criticized and lynched many rounds ago for using a similar tactic. In the end the cits lost, and I turned out to have been right. I was more heavy handed in that I looked for players posts outside of the thread, but the reasoning was the same.

I am however, naturally suspicious of those who are wrong. Based on my own timeline, it would make more sense me being a wolf than Bernek or Jazaray, but the thing we have to take into account is that this strategy is only useful in picking the wolf leader. He's the one who pms the kill, so unless he's uncommonly meticulous(waiting to hear from both others) or he arranged a discussion with the other 2, he's the only late one.

I think I will be voting for either PD or Morbid this round, but I won't submit my vote till tomorrow morning. That is also when I will attempt to respond to questions and criticisms aimed at me.

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So I think we need to look at these 3 here:

TMB
Jazaray
MW.

quote:

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Originally posted by Montague:
I realize the lag time is a good indicator, but by that almost everybody is a suspect. Guess what? We only have 2 more votes. You are going to have to go off of other tells.

Now fwy, this round I had you completely wrapped up. All I had to do was keep my vote on you and you were gone. The one person that was going after me the hardest would have been gone. Why would I have changed my vote to try and keep you in the game? That would be completely ridiculous if I was a wolf and did that. Don't play the double bluff card either because you know good and well that that isnt the case.

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How is everyone a suspect based on lag time, only you are. Everyone still alive was active from the outset of the first round only you weren't. I know its not your fault and there isn't anything you can do about coming in for someone who was afk from the get go, but this is something that still hasn't been addressed and can't be. You may consider it foolish, but I consider it a fact.

Another disturbing thing is that you had fwy all wrapped up and now you are not voting for him, that makes absolutely no sense. Instead you are voting for someone else who has also been voting to get you out, I find it rather scummy that the two suspects you have are the two people who are absolutely voting for you.

I would like to believe you and you have such drive and desperation at the same time makes it hard for me to read. You want to live and stay in the game. Though I do have a slight belief that you may be a Villager. I must keep an open mind on my current list.

You HAVE switched to Bruised, but that does not prove anything, but that I made some valid points in my arguments and that you would MAYBE look more suspicous once I am hung.

IF I am hung and you have switched you would look back and say I knew it...looking like the good guy.

please note these are only speculation on my part and of your suspect from me.

NOW on to Jaz:

I feel Jaz is a Villager, only because she has not changed her state of play in any aspect. tho a constant player in the sense she is always available to play, she has not made any attempt to rally or visually alter our perceptions of her game ( I think thats right)

As for MasterWolf:

Here is where my main suspicion lies atm:

His original vote was for Bruised tho he did end up voting Xpr.

quote:

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
For now, my vote is Bruised. I can be convinced to vote XPR, as his last couple posts have been too "busy" for me. For someone who didn't mind info-dying 2 rounds ago, all of a sudden he really really wants to stay alive.

I'll try and check before votes are due, but MM, this post counts as my vote for Bruised if there are any PM issues.

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I was on his suspect list, he continued with Bruised. UNTIL you came with the theory of my state of play. which you voiced a vote for me. To me alot of his posts are IIOF, Information istead of Analysis,

Im such a noob when its come to this stuff but Im learning.

NOW, his post seem to state the obvious, which would lead to a positive out look. His post are short and to the point,

"Im voting for ..."

"I Don't mind voting for Bruised, is there time to switch"

I remember bugging him earlier cuz he posted something peculiar about the Super bowl and how he was back and would post something later... and i took a shot at him

I sed "Just letting us know you around MW" something to that effect...

he replied that he was just letting Josh know he was around due to the beginning of the game lag...letting his presence be know as he put it.

Josh replied:

"What? I don't recall saying this. If I did, however, I recognized that has been cleared up by not mentioning it in my last large post on the previous page."

Page 3 is the largest post I have seen from him in a while...

In this post, take interest in the defending of BB been out OOC...telling PD its a stretch. but by the end of the post he is voting BB???

"PGB suspected me for my negative view of AGM, but he was unaware of recent "Developments" so to speak which I explained earlier. Might want to go back and read that. I certainly did suspect 2 known cits. I think the wolves at this point are setting me up. Thanks for pointing that out. Are you trying to set me up too? As for Jaz, I think there were plenty of reasons to attack her and I still believe she would have made a better R1 policy lynch than Morbid. Regardless, it's too late at this point to worry about that, because I don't think we have the luxury of policy lynching any more."

he did go on to answer Josh in regards to the NKO lag.

and he also went on to vote BB, this is before the tell from PD about reading posts. He states later that "this post counts for a vote to BB in case no PM....

he also goes in the Dakrum Lynch... saying we could learn alot if we find out if he is the HWW.

quote:

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Originally posted by Master Wolf:
I don't think we're going to get any more action until Dak/Josh are gone, which is a big shame, because we have 2 comfirmed cits who could be giving us their unbiased opinions right now. We should be using Josh and Mystic to gather trustworthy analysis.
MM, you might need to just move on to the next round.

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I read this back then, and I thought this seems so brown nosing to me...what could they tell that they haven't already...

What could he tell us if Dakrum was the HWW, the information he stated we could learn from...?

he did post some stuff in regads to flushing out the HWWm but it was a null. I played out the theory of his on page 6 and it would not have worked, as we have no major suspect. that play would not work unless we had a willing sac and a real suspect. cuz anyone could hide those piles that MW was trying to play out. Spreading our votes among 4 different people would have been alot of pile to try and dissect.

what has MW added to this game....a few "I agree", "I can switch", "Im voting for".

and he always makes it a point to say "I'm around"

quote:

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Yes I have been more active! I have internet again as of 2 nights ago. Facebook friends can confirm
I'm not all that sure XPR is mafia, but I don't think that TMB is anymore. I am leaning TMB/Mystic/Jaz/MW for cits and Bruised/XPR/Cat for scum possibles. Will probably vote Bruised next round, maybe Cat. I just keep seeing similarities between this game and the last one that Cat played as scum.

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this is in response to Xpr stating he has been more active as of late.

and My big finale:

quote:

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Good morning. I have submitted a vote for Bruised.

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lol, my first couple of hours at work have been on MOTL, hahaa.

I resubmitted for MW

fwy
Cat
Bruised

quote:

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Oh fwy, now you're just distracting the cits. I thought you made a good argument to stay alive and so went with my other suspicion, Bruised. You're making it hard to support you when you try and throw suspicion on every other player alive. My suspects are still:

fwy
Cat
Bruised

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Oh Im not throwing Suspicion on every other player, don't get it twisted... Just you and Monty, but more so you.

How am I distracting the Village? With my suspicion of you?

Does this mean you are switching you vote back to me?

Can u give me an insight on why you suspect each individual on your list...and maybe how you came about those suspicions if you can...

quote:

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Oh Im not throwing Suspicion on every other player, don't get it twisted... Just you and Monty, but more so you.

How am I distracting the Village? With my suspicion of you?

Does this mean you are switching you vote back to me?

Can u give me an insight on why you suspect each individual on your list...and maybe how you came about those suspicions if you can...

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Sure, you three are in the Morbid pile from R1 for starters. So is TMB, but I feel like the attacks against him by vote wolves makes him less likely a wolf.

quote:

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Originally posted by Bruised:
How is everyone a suspect based on lag time, only you are. Everyone still alive was active from the outset of the first round only you weren't. I know its not your fault and there isn't anything you can do about coming in for someone who was afk from the get go, but this is something that still hasn't been addressed and can't be. You may consider it foolish, but I consider it a fact.

Another disturbing thing is that you had fwy all wrapped up and now you are not voting for him, that makes absolutely no sense. Instead you are voting for someone else who has also been voting to get you out, I find it rather scummy that the two suspects you have are the two people who are absolutely voting for you.

Still voting Monty.

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Are you serious with this?

So I am the only person who is a suspect because of lag time?

Masterwolfs first post was 7 hrs before the kill was announced

Your first post was 5 hrs before the kill was announced

Fwy's was 6 hrs after the first kill was announced

Caitiri's was 2 hours before the first kill was announced

Jaz's was an hour and a half after the first kill was announced

And because TMB waited until the next day to make his first post, he is the one who is a suspect?

How does that make any sense? So he sent in his first kill, but didnt think to come into the thread and make a post?

You realize that MM doesnt just wait around and the second a kill is sent in he updates the thread right? So the head wolf would have sent in his kill and posted on the thread. Probally something that makes it look like he is a little irritated by the time it took for the kill to get in, and then as soon as MM signed in and had the kill he posted it. It could have been any one of us if you are going off of lag time

quote:

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Monty,

You HAVE switched to Bruised, but that does not prove anything, but that I made some valid points in my arguments and that you would MAYBE look more suspicous once I am hung.

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