-Caitiri

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
Alright, I'm going to be perfectly honest and say that I am really not sure who we should be going after right now. My first inclination would be to follow up on TMB/Monty since he fits the time lag at the beginning of the game and numerous other people have found him suspicious. As PD has pointed out, though, silence is the death of the cits. Unless people start talking the last wolf can just sit back and coast to victory. Does anybody else have anything to go on other than TMB/Monty?

-Caitiri

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I imagine the popular vote right now is Myself, You, and bruised. I have a good reason to vote for any one of you, but nothing that is for sure. We have 2 lynches before the game is over so we need to make sure we take advantage of them.

We know why everyone is suspicious of me, bruised, and caitiri, but what about the other 3?

FWY is extremely out of his normal character this game. Usually by this time he has blown up and gotten himself lynched. This game he has made more of an attempt to stay out of the fights and he has worded his posts a little softer. He could just be trying to become a better player, but I doubt it. It is like Bernek last game. This is where my vote will probally be going. I would like to hear other's theories though.

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Originally posted by Montague:

FWY is extremely out of his normal character this game. Usually by this time he has blown up and gotten himself lynched. This game he has made more of an attempt to stay out of the fights and he has worded his posts a little softer. He could just be trying to become a better player, but I doubt it. It is like Bernek last game. This is where my vote will probally be going. I would like to hear other's theories though.

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I've been suspicious of this too. You and fwy are at the top of my suspect list.

I'm sort of suspicious of cait, like it's been pointed out, he has been playing very much like he did when he was a WW.

Bruised has seemed to quiet down quite a bit and that's making me more suspicious of him as well. Almost like he doesn't want to mess up or something.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

not in that order.

Dak's Execution plan:

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Originally posted by Bruised:
Sorry all I have been busier at work than usual and my gf's birthday is today (hooray for back to back dinners out) so I am a bit more preoccupied than I usually am.

I will continue to rely on my previous post and vote Montague and suspect Caitri. I will also hopefully post a more insightful post tomorrow as I am in a rush.

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Originally posted by Montague:
Are you serious Fwy? How long have you been sitting on that waiting to try and spring it at the right time?

The funny thing about that is that everybody here is on that list except for one person. You!

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You have to understand that these options in names are the works of PD and the choices are Dak's not yours, but his, and I must say you are sure taking a defense to it...

Thanks for trying to spin my civilized posts into something more then they are though fwy!

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Originally posted by Montague:
No, not defensive, but if I am going to be lynched then I want you guys to have to say as much as possible to do it. That way next round it can't be said that the reason the wolf won was because nobody was talking.

Thanks for trying to spin my civilized posts into something more then they are though fwy!

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I just replied and made an observation...you have replied to my placing a vote for you and clearly stated your concern for the information I had provided. I think its to bad you had to come in this game late and under scrutiny, but I dont think we should allow TMB's nonactiveness slide. Im thinking he knew he was going to be lynched, then got replaced. And I did state that im not in favor of replacements.

As for your civilized posts, I am replying to ONE post and now you are trying to make it seem decitful... hmmm

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Originally posted by Montague:
Why is it that you are the only active player who wasnt on the list fwy?

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Because if you read back that list is from a set of questions PD had come with for all of us to answer, tho most did not answer, Dakrum did. Now the list consisted of a group of 3 names in each line, we were to pick one name on who we would execute. That list of names is NOT MINE to make, it was all PD's choices. Why did PD not list me as much then I dont know.

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Originally posted by Montague:
So do you really think that he would only pick 2 different players to suspect as wolves both times, and that both times they would actually be wolves. If it were me, I would have put a wolf on there twice, but at the same time I would have completely left one off.

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At the time Dakrum did his choices he was not a suspected WW.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Because if you read back that list is from a set of questions PD had come with for all of us to answer, tho most did not answer, Dakrum did. Now the list consisted of a group of 3 names in each line, we were to pick one name on who we would execute. That list of names is NOT MINE to make, it was all PD's choices. Why did PD not list me as much then I dont know.

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I kinda don't know what to think about this. Do you really not understand what I was saying? Did anybody else have trouble with what I am saying? Maybe I just need to type clearer.

Yes fwy, I understand what the questions were. I am assuming that you are trying to make a point that on the list Dakrum picked 2 names twice. One of them turned out to be a wolf, so you are suggestioning that the other person he picked twice, TMB, is probally a wolf too. Am I correct?

On the same note, I was not referring to the number of times you name showed up on the list. I was referring to the number of times Dakrum picked your name from the list. Zero. I was not trying to compare what I would pick now against what Dakrum picked. I was trying to compare what I would pick if I were a wolf with how dakrum picked. You know, putting myself into his shoes.

I'm curious what Cait, MW and Bruised think about it, but at this point in time, my vote is going to fwy.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

I think taking a look at the results of PD's survey is an interesting place to look, so I'm going to look back over that right now. I should be available for the rest of the evening if needed.

-Caitiri

Fwy's response to PD's survey was interesting. Some people answered in full, some chose not to respond (myself included), but his response seems somewhat over the top and suggests to me that he might be a wolf. In addition, there have been times that he has tried to cast suspicion on a person and upon a defense by them has immediately backed off.

As for Bruised, him being new could have contributed to the initial time lag. In addition, there were some posts that seemed like he was trying to keep his options open in regards to who to vote for, which is a very wolfish thing to do.

-Caitiri

I am a Villager. If I am sent to the gallows, my suspicions are as follows

Jaz - For her lag time, how Dak and BB both had her under suspicion, and how she seems to be trying to rally the troops so to speak very ooc. she is usually never this vocal...

Monty - Very defensive, When I brought up my suspicion my head was bitten off.

now I understand that this is early in context, but with both Jaz, Cait and Monty voting for me they jes need one more follower to lynch me.

As for monty his defensiveness turns to argumentative. All he had to do was defend himself, but he turned to accusations and play style. A style i have not gone back to in a couple of game now. I wanted to see his reactions to my post. I was reading back in the old thread to read the other WW's posts, that is how I came upon PD's questions answered by Dak. Why would I even bother to do that???

I wanted answers like five of us...

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Edit: I see you went back to read my answers Cait... cuz you wanted to look me over right??? FOR ANSWERS!

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Huh?

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
Huh?

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
you have staed you read my answer in PD's questions...I assumed that you have went back to reread my posts ..no?

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I have re-read everybody's posts.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Monty - Very defensive, When I brought up my suspicion my head was bitten off.

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Not so much for the game, but can you please show me where I bit your head off?

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
I feel that Dakrum's strong push a long time ago to eliminate TMB suggests that he is probably a villager. I don't think it would have been worth it to gamble on the life of a wolf (if others followed suit and voted TMB) at that point in the game.

-Caitiri

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I went back and read for this information...

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Originally posted by Dakrum:
TheMidnightBomber: I already found him suspicious from earlier, and I have yet to hear an answer from him which makes me question a lot more. I might be overreacting to this.

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Originally posted by Dakrum:
I was suspicious of him R1 for not addressing the question I had and for something that struck me as odd. Since nothing has changed on that front, I am still taking this stance. My suspicion is now greater since he managed to get a vote in while not addressing anybody.

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Originally posted by Dakrum:
Where is TheMidnightBomber? This is starting to get annoying.

-Medium-High: TheMidnightBomber (silence and answer to question), Battle_of_Twits (other presented cases)

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Originally posted by Dakrum:
So TheMidnightBomber has some time to post on the video game thread but not here - at all for such a long period of time?
Submitting my vote for TheMidnightBomber.

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As Cait says "at that point in time", BUT...Both Dak and BB submitted for TMB, tho TMB was no where near been lynched that day, what if he was? Dak and BB would look like heroes if TMB was the HWW. Dak was rightfully annoyed by TMB but they had no connection to tie them together then. A lynching of TMB with his suspicion would put him in the clear late game, no?

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Originally posted by Dakrum:
1. Considering that I'm suspicious of Jaz and MW and how small of a pile it is, yes. I haven't done any math on it to confirm this though.

2. I'm perfectly fine with it. I play to win and I'm willing to take some heat or be an info-lynch to accomplish that.

3. By the order of my suspicion list - MW, Jaz, and then XpR.

4. If I had to guess who MW's partners are, I would say that Bruised makes a good bit of sense to me, and the other player would be someone like MagicMystic or PD.

5. I was under the impression that the whole notion of a silent player or newer player being the leader was a bit premature. There are players here who could get away with murder by doing this and I don't think this side has been considered. The possibility is pretty likely if you ask me.

6. I would look at everybody in the Mafia 9 ZC (and this includes me of course).

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#1: Josh, dakrum, BB: I'd have to sleep on this, but BB.
#2: Jaz, TMB, BRU: TMB
#3: MW, BOT, GAW: BOT
#4: PD, XPR, Mystic: PD
#5: fwy, BB, Mystic: I'd have to sleep on this, but BB.
#6: PD, Josh, Jaz: Jaz
#7: MW, XPR, fwy: MW
#8: BOT, TMB, Cait: TMB
#9: Mystic, GAW, BRU: BRU
#10: PD, dakrum, Cait: Cait

8. I would vote Bruised for having changed his stance on the MW/Jaz debate so quickly at the very least.

9. I showed that I really didn't understand the policy lynch - multiple times I might add - that lead to me being a hypocrite to my own argument about wasting a round. I also have a list of 5 suspects right now.

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the only place TMB is mentioned in any aspect of suspicion is in the Execution list, I should have quoted the full thread at the time.

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Originally posted by Dakrum:
That's annoying.

MW: He still had the time to vote round one and it felt awfully fishy to me. Almost anything in this game can be a strategy so I don't see why this couldn't be.

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Originally posted by TMB:
I'm sorry everybody, I put a pm to MM to be replaced, while I have had a little time to post elsewhere I haven't had time for the thoughtful analysis that this game requires.

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Originally posted by Dakrum:
My suspicions of TMB/Monty have dropped a bit, but I'm still not clearing him by any means. The last nightkill still took almost 24 hours and we don't know if TMB actually submitted a name or not or if he's simply not the w00f leader.

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Originally posted by Dakrum:
I'll vote BernieB then. I don't have fantastic leads on my other suspects anyway.

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Montague's first real post:

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Originally posted by Monty:
Hey guys, I wanted to post to let you know I was aware that I was in the game. I am still trying to catch up with the last thread. I will post tomorrow about what I am thinking.
Thanks.

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Originally posted by Monty:
This bandwagon on BernieB, and the ease at which it has formed is a little scary on its own.
I am pretty much in a bad spot here. I havent finished reading the thread yet (I will do that tonight after work), therefore I don't really have an opinion yet. I could just vote random which will really throw false data out there or I could just go ahead and go with PD since he is one of the more respected citizens (when he is one) IMO.

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Originally posted by Monty:
I just spent the last couple of hours reading this game. I was trying to focus more on Bernies and Dakrums posts since I already knew they were wolves. One of the things I noticed was that both bernie and dakrum were pushing towards the Non-Morbid pile pretty hard. Considering that there are only 4 people in that pile now, I really have a hard time believing that they would be pushing to it if there were 2 wolves in there making the chance of hitting one 50%. I believe that 2 wolves are in the Morbid pile.

That would leave Bruised, Caitiri, Fwy, and myself. Since I know that I am not a wolf, I believe one of Bruised, Caitiri, and Fwy are wolves.

Bruised- What is funny is that when I first started reading the thread, well before I was replacing TMB, His post stood out to me.

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Tho he states he is trying to catch up in the thread he also states that was reading the thread "Well before replacing TMB"....? He should have more information then he percieved to having, no?

wow thats alot of Cut and paste lol, well thats all I got...

I hope I have changed some minds out there...

No vote on Dakrum from Monty...