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Originally posted by MagicMystic:
And Jaz, can you confirm Caitiri sent you his vote?

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Yes, he sent me his vote.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Really? why would you do that...

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Seriously? Even if one of us is a wolf we can't both be, given that Dakrum and BernieB both are, so you're implication makes no sense. And it happened because I unthinkingly clicked the PM button on one of her posts rather than one of MM's.

Time to go read things through again in a new light.

-Caitiri

PS - Brilliantly done PD.

BTW, if you're in awe of PD right now... I have something to share with you that I don't want to yet. I'll do it at the end of the game. I promise it doesn't affect anything.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
Yes, he sent me his vote.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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And it was for BernieB?

edit: sorry for double posting. It didn't occur to me that I can edit my posts now since I'm confirmed.

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
And it was for BernieB?

edit: sorry for double posting. It didn't occur to me that I can edit my posts now since I'm confirmed.

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If PD was the seer, why wouldn't he just full reveal guys? lol.

I'm eager to find out if dakrum was the wolf leader. Because if not, this could be over quick.

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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Nice move PD. I never thought to do that after Josh's hint. Brilliant. I was trying to bring attention to Josh's non-info while suspecting him, but that's pointless now.

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I think the last wolf (without knowing if Dakrum is the leader) is someone who's new or someone who hasn't been around much. People who were paying attention and are seasoned could have easily figured out my clue. ATM, that points to TMB and Bruised, who seem the leading candidates for lynching right now anyway. Of course, Dakrum fits this criteria as well I believe.

Dakrum: MasterWolf, Josh, TMB, Caitiri, Jaz, Bruised (in questionaire), XPR
Bernie: Jaz, Masterwolf, Mystic

Worth noting that both Jaz and MasterWolf showed up in both lists. Based on the way Bernie was playing, and the fact that he listed the "non-Morbid pile" and singled out Jaz and MW, when dakrum was also on that list, makes me think that it's more likely Jaz and MW are cits than not.

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Originally posted by MagicMystic:
If nobody agrees, that's fine. Just a theory. And Jaz, can you confirm Caitiri sent you his vote?

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I see what you mean, as long as the piles are non threatening and we as cits agree towards votes it would be a play, BUT all he would have to do is remain silent and post a vote for anyone. Its basically useless.

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Originally posted by MM:
Sorry dude, I'm going to bed Maybe tomorrow?

~MM

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lol, Make sure hahaa, my wife gotta chuickle out of that...

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
Seriously? Even if one of us is a wolf we can't both be, given that Dakrum and BernieB both are, so you're implication makes no sense. And it happened because I unthinkingly clicked the PM button on one of her posts rather than one of MM's.

Time to go read things through again in a new light.

-Caitiri

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No, not seriously... I had done the same thing in a previous game...

Of course, voting Dakrum...

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
EDIT: BTW Bruised, we'll discuss how flawed your argument is after the lynch.

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Obviously your untimely death pretty much obliterates my argument.

As far as my suspicions go now that PD has been revealed a cit, it would seem to cast a shadow over Montague as PD's intentions were genuine and that was the first major suspicion PD had. I am also suspicious of Caitri as he was also a top of PD's list and PD's judgement currently seems more sound than mine.

As for the contingency of players who feel I the last wolf, I definitely understand how you may find my posts odd and scummy but I just haven't properly found the right way to express my opinions in a non-scummy way and I apologize for that.

I would also find it highly unlikely that I, in my first ever scum game, would be the only vocal wolf. I have met Zakman and I sir am no Zakman.

Vote: Dakrum

-Caitiri

{VOTING: Dakrum}

~MM

I am of course kidding,OR AM I?

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I am MeddlingMage...YOUR Motl Survivor 11 Champion and 2007 Captain N award winner.

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Boy, all this inactivity...Suspensions all around!

~MM

I am of course kidding,OR AM I?

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I'd like to start doing a pile analysis of the first 2 lynches now that we know 2 wolves, and see if that helps us find the third.

MM, you might need to just move on to the next round.

(Except for monty who didnt vote.)

So 1 wolf left guys!

Also:

Late in the night, MeddlingMage was watching T.V. He was enjoying his nightly episode of Dora, the Explorer when his T.V. started to cut out, those horrible lines going across the screen. Then, his T.V. flashes to a scene; a lone figure was seen ambling around some town square, walking back and forth in front of a tree, talking to himself. The figures head lifts as he hears a sound, a sort of shuffling sound. MeddlingMage freezes as he recognizes the sound, the sound of padded feet walking over concrete. MeddlingMage closes his eyes; he does not want to see this. It doesn’t however; prevent him from hearing a deep voice rumble, “Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer’s ways, Mr. Sherman. Your sad devotion to humanity has not helped you conjure up a solution to our feeding frenzy, or given you clairvoyance enough to find out who we all are.” Another voice, this one wavery, responds. “You won’t win, you know. They’ll find you, just like they did the rest of your kind. Your death is imminent.” The other voice laughs, “I find your lack of faith in me disturbing.” A low, guttural growl accentuated like laughter, emits from the TV, causing Meddling Mage to wet himself a little. Suddenly, he hears a bloodcurdling scream, shortly before his TV switches back to Dora. "Bien! " But it was not good, for MeddlingMage knew that Josh was dead.

As expected, you are without your seer.

Edit: Votes are due Friday!

~MM

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Everyone voted for dakrum, including dakrum himself.

(Except for monty who didnt vote.)

So 1 wolf left guys!

Also:

Late in the night, MeddlingMage was watching T.V. He was enjoying his nightly episode of Dora, the Explorer when his T.V. started to cut out, those horrible lines going across the screen. Then, his T.V. flashes to a scene; a lone figure was seen ambling around some town square, walking back and forth in front of a tree, talking to himself. The figures head lifts as he hears a sound, a sort of shuffling sound. MeddlingMage freezes as he recognizes the sound, the sound of padded feet walking over concrete. MeddlingMage closes his eyes; he does not want to see this. It doesn’t however; prevent him from hearing a deep voice rumble, “Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer’s ways, Mr. Sherman. Your sad devotion to humanity has not helped you conjure up a solution to our feeding frenzy, or given you clairvoyance enough to find out who we all are.” Another voice, this one wavery, responds. “You won’t win, you know. They’ll find you, just like they did the rest of your kind. Your death is imminent.” The other voice laughs, “I find your lack of faith in me disturbing.” A low, guttural growl accentuated like laughter, emits from the TV, causing Meddling Mage to wet himself a little. Suddenly, he hears a bloodcurdling scream, shortly before his TV switches back to Dora. "Bien! " But it was not good, for MeddlingMage knew that Josh was dead.

As expected, you are without your seer.

~MM

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1) Bernek was in fact a mafia this game (as proven by the lynch of his replacement dakrum), despite many (B_O_T and PD) willing to clear him for saying "good luck cits" as he asked for a substitute to replace him due to problems in real life (I really hope that he wasn't fabricating that)...despite me, Josh and Bernie (wolf) saying that there is no tell in that.

In Post 84 he said to PD "The only thing up to this point I can agree with you on is taking so long on the kill. Was it done on purpose, or are the wolves distracted?"

MeddlingMage has not indicated if he was the mafia leader but I am going to assume he was not as he was posting before the first nightkill.

2) PGB suspected the following players as shown in post 94 (1st thread) when he said:

"Using this logic I'll narrow the names down a bit. I suspect one of the following:

Gawain
Masterwolf
MagicMystic
Morbid
Bruised
JoshSherman"

Of all the players that have not been confirmed etc., the only ones left are Bruised and Masterwolf. None of the others have proven to be a wolf so far (3 cits and 1 seer)

Right before his death in the 2nd Night Kill of the game he had posted (post 177 on thread 1):

"Medium to highly suspicious- Masterwolf

I suspect him based on his very negative view of AGM. He had a couple bad games, that enough to round one lynch him? Similarly, he seems to suspect myself and TMB based on that we have a better respect for AGM's game than he does. If we are to use "Bad cit policy", why didn't he bat an eye at Bernek(no disrespect) before his replacement? Bernek has a laundry list of bad cit performances compared to AGM. Basically, AGM's round zero offing could very well be an attempt to conspire aginst those who are either for or against him. MW allowed himself to be wrapped up in the think of it.

fwy- mild-medium suspicious

Just a bit OOC. I've always viewed him as an antagonizer, and he seems agreeable this game.

quote:Im sure it depends on the time of these lynchings...Im sure if it were down to 3 or 4 with a silent then this would be the case...but this ensure that we wont have any loose silents around to deal with like that....

This is just a much kinder/gentler fwy post than I remember of him. Perhaps someone who's been more involved in games can correct me?"

His main 2 suspects before his death, MasterWolf and Fwy are still in this game.

3) TheMidnightBomber has been inactive all game and now his replacement Montague seems to be following in his footsteps. I found one of his few posts on the first thread which said:

"I am however, naturally suspicious of those who are wrong. Based on my own timeline, it would make more sense me being a wolf than Bernek or Jazaray, but the thing we have to take into account is that this strategy is only useful in picking the wolf leader. He's the one who pms the kill, so unless he's uncommonly meticulous (waiting to hear from both others) or he arranged a discussion with the other 2, he's the only late one."

Interesting how he involved Bernek and Jazaray not being wolves if he was. Considering we only have 1 wolf left it is impossible for Jazaray and him to be a wolf, and I am not sure why he brought up Bernek at all considering that Bernek was more active than some other players. (such as Morbid) He also said the wolf leader was a "he", could be a slip up. PD also suspected TMB a lot.

4) B-O_T suspect list on post 100 (1st thread) shows that he suspects in order:

PD (6)
Bernek (4)
BernieB, Morbid (3)
XPR (2)
Bruised, Josh, Gawain, TMB, PGD, MagicMystic (1)

He was wrong about PD and Morbid but right about Bernek and BernieB. Of all the players on his suspect list the only ones left are me (XPR), TMB and Bruised.

Before he was lynched BOT suspected XPR(me)and MasterWolf as stated in post 190 on thread 1. Both of us are unknown quantities to the populace as of right now.

5) Convicted wolf BernieB in post 104 (thread 1), says that " If I had to start placing suspicion, it would be on Jazaray, because she changed how she got her original vote, changing kids is as good as any other first round vote idea."

Possibilities of the double bluff?

6) Masterwolf on post 160 (1st thread) claimed that:

"So, after all that stuff, my top three suspects are:
PGB
TMB
BOT

I think it is highly likely the Mafia leader is one of these three.

But I don't have a strong lead on either of them."

The only player left alive at the moment in that group is TMB (in the form of Montague) - however we do not know what role Masterwolf has.

7) Gawain (cit) before his death had posted in post 193 of thread 1 that:

"I apologize for the rather long-winded nature of this post, but there was a lot to get out. To summarize my suspicion list at this point:

High Suspicion: BoT, TheMidnightBomber
Medium Suspicion: JoshSherman, BerniB, Caitiri, Jaz
Low/No Suspicion/Read: Everyone Else"

However, BOT turned out to be a cit, Bernie turned out to be a wolf and Josh turned out to be the seer. TMB, Jaz and Cait are still unknown.

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Good luck.

I just spent the last couple of hours reading this game. I was trying to focus more on Bernies and Dakrums posts since I already knew they were wolves. One of the things I noticed was that both bernie and dakrum were pushing towards the Non-Morbid pile pretty hard. Considering that there are only 4 people in that pile now, I really have a hard time believing that they would be pushing to it if there were 2 wolves in there making the chance of hitting one 50%. I believe that 2 wolves are in the Morbid pile.

That would leave Bruised, Caitiri, Fwy, and myself. Since I know that I am not a wolf, I believe one of Bruised, Caitiri, and Fwy are wolves.

Bruised- What is funny is that when I first started reading the thread, well before I was replacing TMB, His post stood out to me.

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Originally posted by Bruised:
I am sure that the Wolves are just being dramatic in order to give my first game the maximum amount of suspense, or they just don't check PM's, ever.

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Now, I don't really know why that stood out to me but it was my first "gut" feeling I guess.

In the past I have noticed that something wolves like to do is point out that the group is about to lynch somebody who they believe is a cit.

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Originally posted by Bruised:
"A preemptive apology for a stream of consciousness post...
Hmm I reread TMB's post and it is a bit suspicious, which underlines one extremely important point, I should never talk in absolutes. However, I still feel like it isn't enough to condemn him, if he again votes this upcoming round without saying anything I feel like he should be lynched immediately.

I do not believe that B_o_T is a wolf, and that he fell into the same trap that Gawain and Zak fell into last game. However, I do not have anyone else who I suspect nearly as much as B_o_T as most of my suspicions are involved in specific spats that two players are having.

I am highly suspicious of the MW/Jaz argument as Jaz comes off way too defensive and MW way too abrasive/offensive.

I am suspicious of PD as he is still alive and it would seem that the wolves would want to shut him up. I feel like the R0 kill of AGM would make sense for him as AGM is a disruptive cit but one that seems to target PD a lot. Mainly because PD talks a lot and that's all it takes to be a wolf under AGM. I also found the argument between PD & MW to be highly contrived and would suspect the two of them if B_o_T ends up being a cit.

The only problem I have with PD being a wolf is I feel like he is smart enough to use the delays to cover his trail, but the delays have been so significant that suspensions should definitely be coming. Which for someone so obsessed with these games would seem like something he would not be willing to handle.

I would ask everyone else if XplicitR and Masterwolf are usually this angry of players? I feel like my vote will be between one of these two players based on what there usual style is. They both seem to be flinging angry accusations at everyone which is not helping the town out at all."

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This also stood out to me. I don't like the introduction. I don't like that he defended B_o_T at this point. I don't like that he put attention on MW/Jaz I don't like that he asks everybody opinions on XpR and MW's playstyle. It all just seems odd.

He voted Morbid round 1 who was an obvious lynch. He then voted for 2 players who were neither in any danger of being lynched

Caitiri- The thing that is most concerning about Caitiri, is that reading this entire game I never really questioned him. I just never thought, hmm why would he say that. That probally means that he is a wolf since I am so horrible at scumhunting.

Fwy- This game Fwy is reminding me of Bernek last game. He is being more careful then he normally is. Very early he was phrasing his post's more as questions, almost like he was trying to seem non threatening. I am not use to that by fwy.