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Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Good luck cits. PD, Beam Me Up.

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My first inclination, before I saw Bernek's post, was that it was more likely all three wolves were players not in the ZC last game. When I came across Bernek's post, however, I began to second guess myself. Obviously the wolves had some knowledge that AGM would probably be lynched, making the kill a poor choice unless they're specifically trying to manipulate the villagers through it. This can be seen in Bernek's post where he seems to have been trying to point us toward the ZC players, ie the ones that wouldn't be expected to make that kill. This being in R1, I think this leads me to think that those people he was leading us toward are most likely innocent, which is a point for fwy being a villager. I am interested in what others think though, since this all boils down to one big game of WIFOM.

Perhaps fwy and Monty could clarify more what happened in last game and the ZC that led to the vendetta against AGM, and how the views of the players in the ZC might differ (or not) from other players in the game (and not in the ZC). I have no knowledge of it other than what I've seen in this game. Were TMB and Jaz in that game?

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
That being said with the kill of AGM I would look at players that no one would suspect to make that kill. AGM would most likely hang himself eventually. Why that kill?

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I wanna know why you were so fast on breakin that tie....

you knew that tie as I stated would buy us more time I stated that FACT....

I wanna know WHY!

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
HOLD UP CAIT!

I wanna know why you were so fast on breakin that tie....

you knew that tie as I stated would buy us more time I stated that FACT....

I wanna know WHY!

EDIT:

Jaz, myself, Monty and even MW wanted a tie.... but you broke it.... and Casually I may add...

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I agree. If you are a cit Cait, then you doing that might have just cost the cits the game because If I had to vote right now, it would be you.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
HOLD UP CAIT!

I wanna know why you were so fast on breakin that tie....

you knew that tie as I stated would buy us more time I stated that FACT....

I wanna know WHY!

EDIT:

Jaz, myself, Monty and even MW wanted a tie.... but you broke it.... and Casually I may add...

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First of all, I didn't realize that the tie you were trying to set up was confirmed. I didn't have a lot of time to post, so I went with my suspicions (fwy even asked people to reconsider him in his post). Even so, the tie in that case would have been between fwy and Monty, but only if fwy voted Monty as he claimed he was going to. Before my switch the votes were declared as:

Jaz - fwy
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - Monty
Cait - fwy

This would have ended up in a tie, except that fwy didn't actually switch to Monty like he said he was going to. So even if I didn't switch there wouldn't have been a tie because the votes would have been:

Jaz - fwy
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - MW
Cait - fwy

Even after I switched, Jaz and Monty tried to keep the tie by also switching, which they would have if fwy had switched to Monty like he said he was going to.

All of that being said, here's my question. The initial tie was going to be between fwy and Monty. First of all, if I am the last wolf then why would I have tried to stop this from happening? A tie between two cits means a cit dies no matter what. The only person who would want to stop the tie is the last wolf if and only if he was one of the people in the tie. Now the person who appears to have attempted this by not switching as he claimed he was going to was fwy. By not switching to Monty, fwy engineered what would have been a tie that included himself into a solid vote for Monty.

So fwy, why didn't you switch to Monty like you said you were going to?

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
HOLD UP CAIT!

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And before you go telling me to hold up so fast, perhaps you should read that post of mine again. In it I said that I was leaning toward it making YOU less suspucious and myself, Monty, and Jaz more suspicious. Even with your questions regarding my vote switch you could have answered my questions, which follow a perfectly legitimate line of reasoning. Why do I have to stop asking questions simply because you suspect me? Your ignoring what I had to say and trying to focus everyone completely on me makes me wonder if you misread my post and thought I was using it to indict you, or that you're worried about things falling down on you again.

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by Fwybwed:
Here's what I will do, I will force this tie and I would ask that everyone please reconsider the vote for me based on my so called OOC... as many can tell I have been trying to change my game as of late.

if you feel that I am still suspicous I will take the fall... by doing this tie we can get more time to analyze each other.

I will go back to Monty.

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I created the tie.....the tie was set in stone UNTIL....YOU BROKE IT!

Monty switched his vote to Bruised for self preservation... I was willing to take the fall last round, but if I could entice a tie, it would mean me remaining in the game and WE could do more evaluation of eachof us as a team.

I also stated that if we could not come to an agreement I would take the fall.

But you ruined it... you ruined everything for us to gain more time....

I switched to MW without reading Monty's switch to Bruised, I don't know why he would do that when it would have been up to me to switch AGAIN to force the tie and I did, but I did not know he too had switched.

I dont know what to do...

If you lynch me we lose, I knew for a fact I should have gone out last round, I knew remaining in this game to this point would be bad for us.

My apologies, I played a good game and misread some posts on MW and Monty....

I am going to stand on my statement that I think fwy is a citizen, otherwise it would be a complete waste for me to let him live last round.

This round I am 95% sure I am voting for Caitiri or Jaz. Tonight after work I am going to go thru the threads and re-read everything pertaining to the 3 of you, and unless I find something severly incriminating on you fwy, I probally be voting for you.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
@ Cait

I created the tie.....the tie was set in stone UNTIL....YOU BROKE IT!

Monty switched his vote to Bruised for self preservation... I was willing to take the fall last round, but if I could entice a tie, it would mean me remaining in the game and WE could do more evaluation of eachof us as a team.

I also stated that if we could not come to an agreement I would take the fall.

But you ruined it... you ruined everything for us to gain more time....

I switched to MW without reading Monty's switch to Bruised, I don't know why he would do that when it would have been up to me to switch AGAIN to force the tie and I did, but I did not know he too had switched.

I dont know what to do...

If you lynch me we lose, I knew for a fact I should have gone out last round, I knew remaining in this game to this point would be bad for us.

My apologies, I played a good game and misread some posts on MW and Monty....

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How do we know the tie was set in stone? You said you were voting for Monty and then didn't. We have no way of knowing if you switched after me, or if you simply never voted for Monty.

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Here's what I will do, I will force this tie and I would ask that everyone please reconsider the vote for me based on my so called OOC... as many can tell I have been trying to change my game as of late.

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Right after this, after fwy says he is forcing the tie like all of us wanted, you posted this.

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
I feel that fwy has made a good case for himself, and done it in a manner that makes him seem less suspicious to me. As such I would be interested in the Bruised lynch this round, since, as I stated before, I found him most suspicious after fwy.

As for votes, last vote submitted before MM posts results is the one that counts.

Switching to Bruised.

-Caitiri

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Very casual to switch your vote to somebody who wasn't getting any votes which also, very casually, lynches me. Do you not see why this is suspicious?

Jaz - fwy
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - Monty
Cait - fwy

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
This would have ended up in a tie, except that fwy didn't actually switch to Monty like he said he was going to. So even if I didn't switch there wouldn't have been a tie because the votes would have been:

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Ah yes I had switched my vote Montague....as per the Original choices.

Jaz - fwy
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - MW
Cait - fwy

You show my vote as MW but what you are failing to show is the replaced votes from yourself and Jaz. In which i changed my vote to MW as it would have been a nonthreatening vote for him.

so the votes SHOULD HAVE looked like this if Montague didnt switch.

Jaz - Bruised
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - MW
Cait - Bruised

so you bringing up the votes as you did with me voting and MW and leaving out the vote switch from Jaz and yourself. Yuo are making it out to say that didnt even bother to switch...

So

Say I kept my vote on MW and monty kept his vote to me...you and Jaz's switch would have kept it at a TIE!...

As for you post on the Your switch I knew you were stating you were basically giving me the benefit of the doubt, but why did you switch at all we could have worked together. you single handledly broke the tie and created confusion...

You switched your vote to Bruised...a Villager with an unknown history in this game.

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
How do we know the tie was set in stone? You said you were voting for Monty and then didn't. We have no way of knowing if you switched after me, or if you simply never voted for Monty.

-Caitiri

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I wanted the tie... I wanted to do more investigating... I wanted us to work together... MW wanted to do a tie, Monty wanted a Tie, I forced the tie, Jaz tried to force the tie after you switched...

I did vote Monty until you switched. read back and you will see my voting pattern in this case.

Why would I not force the tie with a remaining round in play. IF I showed that my original vote was to break the tie as per my MW vote I would be the suspect right off the bat, now that would be just stupid of a HWW who has played so well thus far... don't you think.

Everyone please read....
Cait:

You voted Bruised to break the tie...that would ensure Montagues lynching. Bruised your next in line of suspicion.....hmmm an unknown in this game, noobish so to say.

Your vote for Bruised would have been a non tell...and a non factor for Bruised

lets say Jaz never switched her vote it would have looked like this..

Jaz - fwy
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - Monty
Cait - Bruised

Your vote would have done nothing....... NOTHING!

that would leave:

Bruised
MW
Fwybwed

in play

Im positive that the HWW had picked MW in advance

so that would leave:

Bruised
Fwy

the 2 most talked about player thus far this round....

With all the drama thus far it would be very hard to decide who to vote here. And created by you and your switch to bruised would be this:

Bruised - so much suspicion placed on him by earlier rounds and players for his mistakes.

Fwybwed - A "supposed" non switch of a vote which cost a Villager his life.

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Originally posted by Montague:
Here is how I see it Cait. This is the last post that we had from fwy. He said that he was forcing the tie, and at this point everybody had declared. If we left it here, then we would have known whether fwy was serious or if something funny went down we would have known.

Right after this, after fwy says he is forcing the tie like all of us wanted, you posted this.

Very casual to switch your vote to somebody who wasn't getting any votes which also, very casually, lynches me. Do you not see why this is suspicious?

I mean, if you had read any of the last page you would have known what this would do.

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Yes, I see why that is suspicious to you. I didn't pay close enough attention to all the vote switching that was going on and I didn't completely understand what was happening. But, if I am a wolf, please tell me why it makes any sense whatsoever for me to switch in that situation. Nobody is voting for me and the heat is primarily on you, fwy, and Bruised. My best option would be to just sit back and let it play out. Even not keeping track of all the vote switching I would have known that much. I may not have been keeping close enough track of what was going on, but I'm not an idiot.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Cait, this is the ORGINAL results that we had agreed upon

Jaz - fwy
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - Monty
Cait - fwy

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Yes, I missed that the tie was set up like that. Continuing.

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Ah yes I had switched my vote Montague....as per the Original choices.

Jaz - fwy
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - MW
Cait - fwy

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so you bringing up the votes as you did with me voting and MW and leaving out the vote switch from Jaz and yourself. Yuo are making it out to say that didnt even bother to switch...

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First of all, you aren't understanding my argument. My point was that we don't know when you decided to vote MW. We don't know if you actually switched to Monty and only switched to MW when I switched (and apparently without seeing that Monty switched???). You didn't post that you were switching, so it is an unconfirmed switch that could for all we know have been your original vote. The hypothetical votes I posted were with you not actually switching as you claimed and before I switched to Bruised. I have no way to prove you didn't switch to Monty and you have no way to prove you did.

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You show my vote as MW but what you are failing to show is the replaced votes from yourself and Jaz. In which i changed my vote to MW as it would have been a nonthreatening vote for him.

so the votes SHOULD HAVE looked like this if Montague didnt switch.

Jaz - Bruised
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - fwy
fwy - MW
Cait - Bruised

So

Say I kept my vote on MW and monty kept his vote to me...you and Jaz's switch would have kept it at a TIE!...

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First, let me make sure I understand what you're saying. You are arguing that you switched to MW after seeing that both I and Jaz had switched to Bruised, but without knowing that Monty switched to Bruised as well, thus maintaining a tie (this time between Bruised and Monty), correct? This would lead to what you claim the votes "SHOULD HAVE" looked like.

Now lets take a closer look at all the switching that occurred, starting with me.

February 17, 2010 04:03 PM -- Caitiri switches to Bruised
February 17, 2010 04:13 PM -- Monty switches to Bruised
February 17, 2010 04:27 PM -- Jaz switches to Bruised

February 17, 2010 04:34 PM -- MM posts vote results

You are claiming that you saw me switch (4:03), saw Jaz switch (4:27), but missed Monty switch (4:13)? Monty switched before Jaz, not after. You are claiming that in the 7 minutes between Jaz switching and MM posting the lynch you changed your vote, and did so without reading Monty's post that was directly between mine and Jaz's? I find that very hard to believe. With me, then Monty, then Jaz all switching to Bruised the vote was once again tied:

Jaz - Bruised
Bruised - Monty
MW - Monty
Monty - Bruised
fwy - Monty
Cait - Bruised

It was only AFTER your switch to MW, which, by your own admission was after Jaz switched, that the vote was no longer tied. This makes you just as guilty of not keeping up on the vote switching and the ties as I was.

What doesn't make sense is why you would do it if you're a wolf, just like a doesn't make sense for me to do it as a wolf.

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
I wanted the tie... I wanted to do more investigating... I wanted us to work together... MW wanted to do a tie, Monty wanted a Tie, I forced the tie, Jaz tried to force the tie after you switched...

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Exactly...Jaz forced the tie after I switched...until you went and broke the tie.

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I did vote Monty until you switched. read back and you will see my voting pattern in this case.

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All I said was that this cannot be confirmed.

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Why would I not force the tie with a remaining round in play. IF I showed that my original vote was to break the tie as per my MW vote I would be the suspect right off the bat, now that would be just stupid of a HWW who has played so well thus far... don't you think.

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Yes, I do. But why would you break the tie at the end, just like I did?

I need to take a break. I'll address more later.

-Caitiri

If I failed to switch my vote you would have seen it in the votes we had originally planned.

I've gone over the posts again and here's what I think.

Monty.

Monty was suspicious of fwy for a while, and then, all of a sudden, he says fwy is a cit. He's been budding on fwy for the past two rounds. He's SURE fwy is a cit. How? There's only one player left that can afford to be sure of anything, and that's the final werewolf. He even tried saving fwy from being lynched, why? I think to leave us in this, exact spot. I'm sure that if the tie had actually worked, he would have convinced us to vote for Bruised over him. MW's main suspect? Monty. Where's MW? Dead. It's a risk, sure, but Monty is a great player. Perhaps Monty thinks he has fwy firmly in his corner. And maybe he thinks that he'll be able to convince me to vote Cait also. Cait has held many people's suspicions all game, right?

He already laid the tracks with his "analysis" on us all. I'm sorry, but I think I have provided insight this game. I don't think that I've "just sat back and directed traffic". He's trying to make it so people won't listen to what I have to say. "Don't listen to Jaz, she's just directing us". He posted that fwy was a cit, but "sadly" he'd have to vote for him, so that, if fwy got lynched and was a cit he could say "SEE!! I told you so!"

It just doesn't sit well with me, at all.

Thanks,
Jazaray

__________________
A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

quote:

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
Listen Cait... All you had to do is your part and vote as is...

If I failed to switch my vote you would have seen it in the votes we had originally planned.

All the vote switching caused by you may have cost us the game.

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Did you even read my last posts? Are you just trying to ignore them and make them go away? If you had been voting Monty like you said then it would have been a tie. It was your switching that broke the final tie. Stop ignoring your part in this.

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
@Fwy, I'm sorry but your last post confused the hell outta me.

I've gone over the posts again and here's what I think.

Monty.

Monty was suspicious of fwy for a while, and then, all of a sudden, he says fwy is a cit. He's been budding on fwy for the past two rounds. He's SURE fwy is a cit. How? There's only one player left that can afford to be sure of anything, and that's the final werewolf. He even tried saving fwy from being lynched, why? I think to leave us in this, exact spot. I'm sure that if the tie had actually worked, he would have convinced us to vote for Bruised over him. MW's main suspect? Monty. Where's MW? Dead. It's a risk, sure, but Monty is a great player. Perhaps Monty thinks he has fwy firmly in his corner. And maybe he thinks that he'll be able to convince me to vote Cait also. Cait has held many people's suspicions all game, right?

He already laid the tracks with his "analysis" on us all. I'm sorry, but I think I have provided insight this game. I don't think that I've "just sat back and directed traffic". He's trying to make it so people won't listen to what I have to say. "Don't listen to Jaz, she's just directing us". He posted that fwy was a cit, but "sadly" he'd have to vote for him, so that, if fwy got lynched and was a cit he could say "SEE!! I told you so!"

It just doesn't sit well with me, at all.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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I agree with a lot of this. I am worried, however, that we are overlooking you, Jaz, in our zeal against each other. I think I need to go read everything again.

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
One point that was raised at the beginning of this game with regards to the R0 AGM kill was the question of whether someone who was familiar with his play last game, and especially someone in the ZC last game, would have have killed him, since he would have most likely been lynched first round anyway (note that I am inferring all of this from what was said this game...I didn't follow last game at all). Bernek played last game and certainly knew AGM would probably get lynched eventually (as evinced by his post after the kill on pg3 of the first thread, quoted below), although he wasn't in the ZC so perhaps he didn't know how soon that would happen. The final ZC list from last game (from PD early in the first thread) was: PD, ryan2754, Gawain, MasterWolf, Zakman86, XplicitR, fwybwed, Montague, and dakrum. So Bernek knew and TMB probably didn't, with the wolf leader being the question mark. Of the players remaining (not counting Monty since he wasn't playing R0) fwy is the only one who was in the ZC, and I'm not sure if TMB or Jaz played that game. Given Bernek's post, we know that the wolves at least had some knowledge regarding AGM's character and likelihood of being lynched. So the the question is, was it the wolf leader's plan to try and make himself look less suspicious by lynching AGM (meaning that he was in last game or, more likely, ZC), or did the wolf leader not have the knowledge about AGM when making the kill? If the former, fwy seems the obvious choice. If the latter, any of myself, Jaz, or TMB/Monty are better options for head wolf.

My first inclination, before I saw Bernek's post, was that it was more likely all three wolves were players not in the ZC last game. When I came across Bernek's post, however, I began to second guess myself. Obviously the wolves had some knowledge that AGM would probably be lynched, making the kill a poor choice unless they're specifically trying to manipulate the villagers through it. This can be seen in Bernek's post where he seems to have been trying to point us toward the ZC players, ie the ones that wouldn't be expected to make that kill. This being in R1, I think this leads me to think that those people he was leading us toward are most likely innocent, which is a point for fwy being a villager. I am interested in what others think though, since this all boils down to one big game of WIFOM.

Perhaps fwy and Monty could clarify more what happened in last game and the ZC that led to the vendetta against AGM, and how the views of the players in the ZC might differ (or not) from other players in the game (and not in the ZC). I have no knowledge of it other than what I've seen in this game. Were TMB and Jaz in that game?

-Caitiri

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I'm still interested in responses to this post, since it has fallen by the wayside.

-Caitiri

EDIT: Formatting

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Originally posted by Montague:
Fwy- I am starting to believe that you are a cit. The problem is that I am 100% positive that I am a cit, and the only other option at this moment aside from myself is you. I don't know what I have to do to convince you that I am a cit, but if we keep fighting and you are a cit then it isnt going to end with a win for us.

I would much rather vote bruised here and him be a cit and have the "possibility" that fwy is a wolf and played a really great game, then us to kill fwy and then another cit next round and have bruised win because he is playing silent.

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Originally posted by Montague:
I addressed that last night.

Fwy has handled us coming after him correctly. Bruised has not been playing the game. I would rather lose to fwy playing a good game then bruised not playing at all. Bruised has added almost nothing to the conversation. His last post is almost as ridiculous as him not posting.

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Originally posted by Montague:
And how is it disturbing that I switched from fwy to you? He made a good case and I am actually trying to win this thing The best indicator of a wolf is how the person act's when they are on the ropes. Fwy did a good job. He didnt push for me to be killed or anything drastic, he just stated his opinion and went with the flow.

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Here is what I found regarding why you think fwy is a cit. The first post you don't really give any reason, except to say that you'd rather die to an active wolf in fwy than a passive one in Bruised. From the other ones it appears that the reason you believe fwy is a cit is how he handled himself when in danger of being lynched, not retaliating or doing 'anything drastic'. Would that be an accurate summary?

Honestly, in my experience that's the only way to avoid getting lynched when people are gunning for you, so it makes perfect sense that it is how a wolf would play. Granted, it's also how a cit should play, especially this late in the game where every lynch counts. So I don't agree with your reasoning for fwy's citizenship and am curious if there was anything else to it.

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by Montague:
Fwy- I am starting to believe that you are a cit.

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Originally posted by Montague:
Now fwy, this round I had you completely wrapped up. All I had to do was keep my vote on you and you were gone. The one person that was going after me the hardest would have been gone. Why would I have changed my vote to try and keep you in the game? That would be completely ridiculous if I was a wolf and did that. Don't play the double bluff card either because you know good and well that that isnt the case.

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Originally posted by Montague:
fwy- I don't think he is a wolf,

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All of these I would consider "buddying" onto fwy. As well as setting yourself up for an "I told you so" IF he got lynched. Ok, so you don't say that you're 100% sure, but as I said, you're a good player.

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Originally posted by Montague:
Don't fret right now fwy.

I am going to stand on my statement that I think fwy is a citizen, otherwise it would be a complete waste for me to let him live last round.

This round I am 95% sure I am voting for Caitiri or Jaz. Tonight after work I am going to go thru the threads and re-read everything pertaining to the 3 of you, and unless I find something severly incriminating on you fwy, I probally be voting for you.

I know that 2 of you are citizens, so if we work together we can figure this out.

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"Don't fret fwy" You wouldn't call this being "sure" he was a cit? You're buddying here too.

Then you say that you're 95% sure you're voting for me or Cait (duh, you've already stated, 100 times, that you think fwy is a cit. Who else would you vote for? IIoA, IMHO) Then you go on to say that you're probably voting for fwy. Which is it? It kinda seems like you made a post accusing fwy first, and then redid it but forgot to change the ending.

You're also trying to ingratiate fwy to you "for me to let him live last round.", so he feels like he owes you something.

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Originally posted by Montague:
Caitiri and Jaz: I will respond to you tonight after I leave work. If I posted responses right now they would be gone thru too fast to make any points.

And Jaz, you are completely putting words in my mouth. I never said that I am SURE fwy is a cit. I said I am willing to take a risk on him, and if you want to know why I switched from him feel free to go back and read my posts. I'm sure that I have addressed it a couple of times.

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I'm sorry about the "putting words into your mouth" thing, ok you never said the word "sure". You just implied it.

As for why, yes, we know you changed your mind because fwy put forth an astonishing defensive post. However, fwy is usually an emotional player and normally he would have exploded and posted all over the place. I would say that would make fwy MORE suspicious, not less. His OOC playing is what I've been mainly suspicious about for most of the game. When you look at that post. It was well developed, thoughtful, even spelled correctly! Look at his posts now, he's all over the place, back to the way he usually plays, totally tunneling onto Cait.

Thanks,
Jazaray

__________________
A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

In no way was I in Montague's corner.

To me there was alot of suspicion to go around

Myself - Missing posts of MW and put suspicion on him.I missed Montague's switch which would put me back to the number one spot of suspicion.

Montague - His buddy with me before the agreement of a tie vote.

Caitiri - His genuine and soft switch of suspicion and switch vote to Bruised. This vote for Bruised would have amounted to nuthin...

Jazaray - just her basic lag at the beginning of the game...

I believe I lost an allie and all credibilty in MW when I wrongly accusing him for lack of posting.

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
Did you even read my last posts? Are you just trying to ignore them and make them go away? If you had been voting Monty like you said then it would have been a tie. It was your switching that broke the final tie. Stop ignoring your part in this.

-Caitiri

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This is untrue.