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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
The deceased

AlmasterGM ~ (angel NK0)

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
I am curious though as the defensivness and assumption that I was just taking this game in to account as you seem to have thought.

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As it is, you've got my response.

Okay, so, we lost our angel, again. That sucks--but we can still win without an angel. How about we DON'T go bonkers and force the seer to out himself R1 this game?

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Originally posted by MagicMystic:
I have always been a firm believer, unless something weird comes up, of killing a silent person day 1. So right now my vote would be for Morbid, but obviously if nobody else would do so I'm not going to cast a worthless vote.

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+1.

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Originally posted by Bruised:
Why is this? From my experience (reading the last two games), it seems like his belligerent behavior has been the downfall of the town several times, which would mean that the wolves would want to keep him alive.

The only reason to target AGM right off the bat is if you legitimately believe that he will put on the blinders and go after a wolf (if you are a wolf). As I do not know who he hates or has a past with aside from PD, its hard to draw a conclusion from this kill as lower key wolves would prefer that AGM live. Obviously this could all be a bluff to get us to target PD.

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@Bruised: I think its pretty obvious that I despise AGM. He had mentioned to me a couple times that if he kept getting the R0 kill, that he would quit. Of course, Bernek said the same thing 2 games ago about quitting if he was wrong about me (for the umpteenth time)

Also, considering I called him the cit's most useless player last game, who would suspect me if I got rid of him. I hope that answers your question.

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Originally posted by fwybwed:
XPr, you didnt want him to join this game from jump....posts deleted by MOD.

@Xpr: Do you feel you may be a target for your comments towards AGM at the beginning of this game? (Before roles were handed out.)
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Have we as Villagers benefited from his death? And if so how?

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Originally posted by Battle_of_Twits:
MagicMystic - Goes for the JoshSherman frame up, albeit with sarcasm. Asks for a list of experienced players. +1

PD - Mentions a JoshSherman frame up, suspicions of people who have little time for the game (TMB, Jaz, Bernek). +1

XplicitR - Mentions the JoshSherman frame up, says he would have killed AGM too. Asks for other leads. +2

Bernek - Questions PD. Says he would have killed PD R0. Questions AGM kill. +2

bruised - questions why xplicit would have killed AGM, says this could be a bluff for us to hang PD. +1

PD - Establishes ground for suspecting Bernek, Jaz and TMB; argues WIFOM against Bernek; "Don't let the wolves tell you what to do" +2

Bernek - Defends his position, attacks PD's thought process; says this kill is setting up someone, was the kill delay purposeful or not? +2

PD - clears bernek for not being around; does not want to suspect someone because of previous game's actions, AGM kill could have been a die roll, not a setup; "wolves are communicators" +1

Jaz - Let T.J. pick round one, TMB. 0

Gawain - Blames mix of new/experienced players for the NK delay. Says that they agreed that AGM was dangerous or his kill would cause confusion. +1

fwybwed - Doesn't like WIFOM, wolves express "joy" in shredding AGM, asks XPR if he feels he's being framed, asks if we have benefited from his death +3

magicmystic - again asks for a list of players and their experience levels +0

gawain - provides a list for magicmystic 0

PD - provides a list for magicmystic 0

JoshSherman - says someone who complained about the holdup was a werewolf; points out irony of R0 kill, suspicion list PD, gawain, Masterwolf, fwybwed, bruised, magicmystic, caitri +1

pgb - doesn't like all the acronyms, asks for translation. Considers AGM a good player, with a bad rep. AGM's kill was to improve game. Suspects Gawain, Masterwolf, MagicMystic, Morbid, Bruised, JoshSherman. +1

AGM - death quote 0

PD - provides acronym definitions 0

TMB - suspects PD or Morbid +1

PD - Responds to TMB, Post count; lists people who didn't post before the NK (I didn't post because I thought it was bad form to do so). Points out that me, BernieB and Morbid- haven't posted yet. Low attendance = wolf. Random vote for MagicMystic. +2

Bernek - asks for other's opinions +0

Current suspicion levels:
MagicMystic +1
PD +6
XPR +2
Bernek +4
bruised +1
Jaz 0
Gawain +1
JoshSherman +1
pgb +1
TMB +1
BoT 0
BernieB +3
Morbid- +3

First round suspect so far: PD. For all he's said about frame ups and low attendance, he goes for a random vote. Seems odd to me.

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
I am sorry I missed a lot tonight. I was in a car Accident an was in the hospital most of the day/night. MM can u please find me a replacement. I will be too busy with doctor appointments and other medical issues. Sorry was really looking forward to playing with all the old schoolers. Good luck Cits

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
I am sorry I missed a lot tonight. I was in a car Accident an was in the hospital most of the day/night. MM can u please find me a replacement. I will be too busy with doctor appointments and other medical issues. Sorry was really looking forward to playing with all the old schoolers. Good luck Cits

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
I am sorry I missed a lot tonight. I was in a car Accident an was in the hospital most of the day/night. MM can u please find me a replacement. I will be too busy with doctor appointments and other medical issues. Sorry was really looking forward to playing with all the old schoolers. Good luck Cits

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!!!

Holy Crap man, I hope everything is OK! I hope you feel better soon man And hey, there's always the ZC if you're bored!

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
I am sorry I missed a lot tonight. I was in a car Accident an was in the hospital most of the day/night. MM can u please find me a replacement. I will be too busy with doctor appointments and other medical issues. Sorry was really looking forward to playing with all the old schoolers. Good luck Cits

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<3 Bernek. I hope everything's alright You take care of yourself and keep us updated!

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by Bernek77:
I am sorry I missed a lot tonight. I was in a car Accident an was in the hospital most of the day/night. MM can u please find me a replacement. I will be too busy with doctor appointments and other medical issues. Sorry was really looking forward to playing with all the old schoolers. Good luck Cits

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@ Bernek, get well my friend.

@ All others, Bernek has been replace by dakrum.

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Originally posted by Bruised:
Get well soon Bernek, nothing more obnoxious than dealing with insurance companies and injuries.

As for the vote I think I too am going to vote on Morbid, I am pretty sure that he has either forgotten about the game or doesn't care, as he has posted on the magic portions of this forum since the game started.

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Okay, I'm not against a policy lynch of a noncontributing player--provided there aren't any more suspicious players out there. So for the time being I'll switch my vote to Morbid-.

Question to all players--what is your opinion on the policy lynch of Morbid-?

With Bernek being replaced, there are some observations that can no longer bear fruit that I figure I should share now. When I suspected Bernek he almost immediately jumped on me to question why--this is CLASSIC Bernek, and leads me to think it more likely that he is a cit. One of the things that I thought obvious about Bernek last game that seemed to go unnoticed is that he let many suspicious pokes and votes in his direction go by without raising an eyebrow. While it's possible somebody has since told him that was a giveaway for him, I think it more likely he's a vanilla villager this time.

Obviously I'm not certain on this, we're all too often wrong, but this is the vibe I get right now from Bernek's seat at the table. As that seat is now occupied by dakrum, dakrum has whatever role Bernek had, but he will play totally differently. It's nice to have you back dak, but I wish it were under different circumstances.

Any thoughts from the populace on this?

TMB & BoT: I have open questions to both of you guys and I'd appreciate it if you could answer them. Thanks.

First off, it has been a while since I have played, and I decided to try and pull a Liq with individual post analysis/summary and an arbitrary suspicion number system but discovered I don't have the talent/time/energy to pull it off, and it's not really my style. So let's just ignore what I was trying to do and hit the reset button.

PD, thank you for reiterating your reason for your random vote. Sorry, but you're a bit of a wordsmith and I didn't feel like combing over your posts from the previous game. If you had announced your random vote first and then started analyzing the game I wouldn't have given it much thought, but the other way around struck me as odd. It now makes sense.

Something I would like to point out that sort of clears Dakrum is in Bernek's last post. He finishes with "Good Luck Cits" which could be perceived as a generic sign off but I don't think he would have said that if he was a wolf. In his state, if I was in his shoes, I doubt I would have thought to put "Good Luck Cits" at the end of my post to throw everyone off. Of course, I'm not Bernek, but that's my theory.

I agree with the Morbid- vote. If he's not going to play, he's not doing us any good, cit or not. It's not like we have much else to go on.

PD: As for your questions, shoot.

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Originally posted by MagicMystic:
Morbid- makes too much sense. We don't know for a fact, but it wouldn't be a terrible assumption that at least one of the w00fs are inactive, due to the long time it took for the first kill. They could have been waiting for the other w00f to get involved, and it's possible they eventually made the kill without the input of the third person. Knowing that, and with Morbid- being silent, at worst it's taking out an inactive cit, and at best, it's a w00f.

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
The thing I found most interesting is the IIoA posts by other players all resulted in +0 suspicion. Why would that be?

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Originally posted by Battle_of_Twits:
Alright, home from work. Not much posting today, but sorry to hear about the situation Bernek, hope everything turns out okay!

First off, it has been a while since I have played, and I decided to try and pull a Liq with individual post analysis/summary and an arbitrary suspicion number system but discovered I don't have the talent/time/energy to pull it off, and it's not really my style. So let's just ignore what I was trying to do and hit the reset button.

PD, thank you for reiterating your reason for your random vote. Sorry, but you're a bit of a wordsmith and I didn't feel like combing over your posts from the previous game. If you had announced your random vote first and then started analyzing the game I wouldn't have given it much thought, but the other way around struck me as odd. It now makes sense.

Something I would like to point out that sort of clears Dakrum is in Bernek's last post. He finishes with "Good Luck Cits" which could be perceived as a generic sign off but I don't think he would have said that if he was a wolf. In his state, if I was in his shoes, I doubt I would have thought to put "Good Luck Cits" at the end of my post to throw everyone off. Of course, I'm not Bernek, but that's my theory.

I agree with the Morbid- vote. If he's not going to play, he's not doing us any good, cit or not. It's not like we have much else to go on.

PD: As for your questions, shoot.

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I don't think that you can even consider dakrum (Bernek) to be cleared because of that. Did you even see last game, when MM signed off the game right when the mafia was winning, and people automatically assumed he wasn't mafia and then they found out after the game he was.