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Originally posted by Omega:
With all those guys gone, thats when you can separate team with depth from team with some good players and the rest bad

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No Gonchar, no Malkin, no Talbot, no Kennedy....still 11-3 best record in East.

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Originally posted by daner:
No Gonchar, no Malkin, no Talbot, no Kennedy....still 11-3 best record in East.

I know who has good team depth.

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I didn't realize Gonchar and Malkin missed all 14 games...

Edit: Gonchar (5), Malkin (2) and Kennedy (3) have missed a combined 10 games total this season and the Pens are 3-2 since Gonchar went down five games ago. Aside from that sample size being way too low to make any assumptions about their depth, they have more losses in the past five games than in the first nine, including one to the Wild, who had previously not won on the road this season, and are basically the NHL's closest thing to a soccer team.

My recommendation for you is this:

-Next time, take the games out that the injured players have played. They are 1-1 without Malkin and 3-2 without Gonchar, not 11-3. I figured you just conveniently forgot this more than anything else.

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Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
I didn't realize Gonchar and Malkin missed all 14 games...

Edit: Gonchar (5), Malkin (2) and Kennedy (3) have missed a combined 10 games total this season and the Pens are 3-2 since Gonchar went down five games ago. Aside from that sample size being way too low to make any assumptions about their depth, they have more losses in the past five games than in the first nine, including one to the Wild, who had previously not won on the road this season, and are basically the NHL's closest thing to a soccer team.

My recommendation for you is this:

-Next time, take the games out that the injured players have played. They are 1-1 without Malkin and 3-2 without Gonchar, not 11-3. I figured you just conveniently forgot this more than anything else.

-Wait a couple weeks when they have played more than 5 games to make such a statement. This team could go 5-5 in their next 10 and then you look dumb for saying that they have depth.

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Aside from Minnestoa their other two losses have come to New Jersey, and Phoenix. Which suprisingly Phoenix is a decent team this season.

All their losses have come in back-to-backs as well. So even with stated players in lineup who to say they would win those games anyway. Playing 4 back to backs already in October is brutal. They are 5-3 in those games.

They have secondary scoring from Goligoski, and Kunitz.

Mike Rupp who had all of 3 goals last year already has 3 goals this year.

Skoula who stepped in for Gonchar has 2A, and is a plus +3 in the 5 games replacing Gonchar.

Add to that Marc-Andre Fleury right now is probably playing like the best if not one of the best goaltenders in the league. Then throw in backup Brent Johnson who is 2-1 with a 2.23 gaa and a .920 save %.

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Originally posted by daner:

Yes I know it is a small sample size...but the Penguins do have depth, and even going 5-5 with Geno out (if they did go .500 the rest of his absence) that would still put their overall record @ 16-8 for the season. I'll take .667 win percentages over the course of 1/4 a season any time.

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So going 5-5 or worse in the next 10 wouldn't suggest depth issues?

I'm not contesting whether they have depth or not, I'm just contesting your reasoning for concluding that they have depth. All the guys that you listed have played more games then they haven't minus Talbot, and none of them have missed enough time to evaluate whether or not the Pens have enough depth to make it without them. In retrospect they have faced very little adversity so far. In a month it will be a little different.

I think Gogo is more than just secondary scoring at this rate too.

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Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:

What a tease. you only get 5 min.

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Which is all you need to make you want to puke after watching the Canadiens.

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Originally posted by daner:
Which is all you need to make you want to puke after watching the Canadiens.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU3v3yopqcc&feature=player_embedded

Worth watching if you didn't see it.

.02,
Jesse

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Originally posted by ogre:
Who thought the Pens were done for going into the last 20 seconds last night?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU3v3yopqcc&feature=player_embedded

Worth watching if you didn't see it.

.02,
Jesse

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Cost me a GWG and maybe the week in my one hockey pool

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Originally posted by ogre:
Who thought the Pens were done for going into the last 20 seconds last night?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU3v3yopqcc&feature=player_embedded

Worth watching if you didn't see it.

.02,
Jesse

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That's bc Bill Guerin can make a baby from across the room.

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Originally posted by Omega:
For some reasons, I cant connect on my yahoo account... says im not the owner of my team..

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That's because everyone else in the league owns it, lol

new error :
You are not allowed to view this page because you are not in this league. (Error #152)

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Originally posted by Omega:
Will Ovechkin ever get suspended for his hits?

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No. The NHL will overlook hits by players like him, but let's say someone like Daniel Carcillo, Sean Avery, *insert known trouble maker* hits someone like Ovechkin sometimes does.....easy 3 game suspension.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
He got 2 games.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
He got 2 games.

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Though to be fair if it was Gleason that initiated the hit he would have gotten 5 games easy. The thing now is that Ovi is a repeat offender so any more like this and they'll have to suspend him for longer each time.

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Originally posted by CubFan81:

Oh and, here come the Hawks, the mighty...Blaaaaaaaackhawks.

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I presume you just mean that they are getting "better" bc everyone is now healthy and Hossa has been added to an already solid lineup. Now all you need is to grab a veteran Goaltender off someone to help solidify your only glaring weakness....my advice is to call up Anaheim and ask what they want for Giguere.

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Originally posted by daner:
No offense but the Blackhawks have been pretty good all season....so I don't see them as "coming" since they have been here all year.

I presume you just mean that they are getting "better" bc everyone is now healthy and Hossa has been added to an already solid lineup. Now all you need is to grab a veteran Goaltender off someone to help solidify your only glaring weakness....my advice is to call up Anaheim and ask what they want for Giguere.

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Should be good eitehr way.

Anywho...how bout them Flyers! To say I've ever seen a more dysfunctional team might be a stretch.

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Originally posted by daner:
Biggest game of the year tomorrow...and possibly a Finals pre-view?

Should be good eitehr way.

Anywho...how bout them Flyers! To say I've ever seen a more dysfunctional team might be a stretch.

I don't think the coach is the problem...personally I think it's the GM. I know Philly loves Clarke, but the way he tries to run the team now like it's 1975 just doesn't translate into today's game. Th game is different, plain and simple, and while it's nice to have 1-2 enforcers loading up on a bunch of goons and misfits trying to intimidate your opponent doesn't work anymore. More or less you are playing with a bunch of guys who are slower and less talented than the other elite teams you will face. I think their recent showing the past few years is proof that it's no working, and something like a coahing change is not the answer. They need to purge themselves of the troublemakers. Mike Richards and Jeff Carte rhave all the talent in the world to go out and score goals. They need to be taught discipline, which is something I don't think Clarke advocates enough...and I believe it's time he goes.

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Uh, is Clarke still the GM?