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Originally posted by MikeAndMike:
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Then, I saw the THREE PAGES of offers by other MOTLers and was astounded. This is a very major rules violation and none of them bothered to turn it in. Now, I realize that there is no "rule" itself stating that you have to turn in violations, but.. come on people..

Not only that, but they were offering to trade for fake cards (against the rules) and they were offering to buy or sell at "reasonable prices" (against the rules) and not one person could be bothered. And, it's not like they were all new, there were quite a few "well known" members in the mix. I was sorely tempted to smack each and every one of those posters, but, maybe I'm just too nice sometimes.

I've always thought of MOTL as part of my family, but, even if we're not that, we ARE a community. As a community we need to band together and help each other out. This means turning in rules violations. Out of Nder, 'Slinga, Bolty and I, at least one of us is around sometimes, and if we're not, email and PM's work wonders.

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Originally posted by Preacher:
Considering how many times I received a "no, I won't trade with you because you're overseas" back when I was trading, I can only conclude that a lot of people just don't read the rules.

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I'm still missing where its in MOTL rules that you can not choose to send overseas.

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Originally posted by super324:
I'm still missing where its in MOTL rules that you can not choose to send overseas.

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I don't think that he's saying that it is, he probably means that people have the "Global" icon checked, meaning that they WILL send overseas. I've seen that a lot too.

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Originally posted by cerberus:
I'm around all the time still.

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Sorry 'bout that Cerb. That's what you get for not talking to me as often as they do.

Thanks,
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Originally posted by super324:
I'm still missing where its in MOTL rules that you can not choose to send overseas.

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I mean a situation where I

1) Have the globe icon on my topic.
2) State in my rules that "I live in Finland, which is in Europe."

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This is a very major rules violation

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They posted an offer on my list, so i saw that thread a few days ago. I suspected that there's something wrong with doing that, but frankly after reading the 2 "rules" links i see, i didnt find a rule against it.

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Originally posted by RoddyVR:
They posted an offer on my list, so i saw that thread a few days ago. I suspected that there's something wrong with doing that, but frankly after reading the 2 "rules" links i see, i didnt find a rule against it.

Could someone point me to the part of the rules that they are breaking?
Maybe i'm missing some major rules page somewhere.

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
I'm with some people. I don't check H/W lists often, but I am always on the sales lists. Everytime I see something there, I post it to them, giving them a chance before the mods do what they must, especially with newer people.

But I've PMed Mods before and never saw anything come of it. No offense to any of you, because I know you do alot, but it seemed like the phrase was true: "Doing the right thing ain't always doing the right thing." (Thank you SLJ!)

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It's nice to give people a warning, but it's much nicer to also give the mods a heads up so that bad behaviors can be monitored. We can't be everywhere and see every thread, so we do need things brought to our attention so that they can be dealt with properly.

I guarantee that "Doing the right thing ain't always doing the right thing" is not true around here.

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Originally posted by ratmage:
Honestly, I've seen a lot of flaming and spamming and the mods weren't worried about it, so I generally don't stress about other rules violations unless someone's specifically trying to do something to me.

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Do you know if the mods have seen it? Do you know what action may have been taken if they did see it? It's a major problem around here that a lot of people just don't get involved enough in the MOTL community to take an active role in trying to keep it running smoothly. People ignoring those who are breaking the rules leads to bigger problems. I can't count the number of returning rippers who have completed several successful trades with higher-ref members who are too lazy or careless to check their address in the BTA and thus are directly assisting rippers in getting the refs they need to rip off a bunch more newer members who don't know how to search the BTA and CBT properly to protect themselves. It shouldn't be a wonder why we don't hand out as much positive karma as we'd like.

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Anyone who is caught bumping considerably old trading lists will be warned. Start checking the date that the list was originally posted; it is not that hard.

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This is the infraction I see. You can go on the H/W at just about anytime of day and see a name you don't recognize being the last poster on 10-12 lists in a row. Almost guaranteed the latest update on any of them is over 5 months ago.

i thought lists were erased with like 3 months inactivity but I swear I've seen some where the OP hadn't touched it for 5 or 6.

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Originally posted by harbingerofthevoid:
So out of curiosity. How serious is this rule taken:

This is the infraction I see. You can go on the H/W at just about anytime of day and see a name you don't recognize being the last poster on 10-12 lists in a row. Almost guaranteed the latest update on any of them is over 5 months ago.

i thought lists were erased with like 3 months inactivity but I swear I've seen some where the OP hadn't touched it for 5 or 6.

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If I'm made aware of it, I deal with it. Unfortunately, us mods have lives (well some of them do, at least) and can't spend as much time as we'd like searching for karma smacks to hand out.

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Originally posted by nderdog:
If I'm made aware of it, I deal with it. Unfortunately, us mods have lives (well some of them do, at least) and can't spend as much time as we'd like searching for karma smacks to hand out.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
If you made me a mod, I'd smite every rule breaker with the fury of a thousand burning suns.

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Absoulte power corrupts.

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Originally posted by revenger:
Absoulte power corrupts.

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You got that wrong.

"Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely."

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http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/065190.html

Gunslinga posted here and this post clearly breaks the rules by saying "Or Best Offer" making it into a cash auction. Now, if this gets allowed, then I know I'm ****ed because I had a post closed with a much, much smaller lot, but for the exact same reason.

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Originally posted by cerberus:
I'm around all the time still.

Jaz is right though, we rely on everyone to help us out. Plus, some of us reward with + karma.

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i gave that up when i realized positive karma faded away over time.

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Originally posted by Volcanon:
If you made me a mod, I'd smite every rule breaker with the fury of a thousand burning suns.

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and that.. is why you wont be mod. look at the last mod that went on a powertrip and ruled with an iron fist.. (han).

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
Well Jaz and nder, time to test your theory.

http://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/065190.html

Gunslinga posted here and this post clearly breaks the rules by saying "Or Best Offer" making it into a cash auction. Now, if this gets allowed, then I know I'm ****ed because I had a post closed with a much, much smaller lot, but for the exact same reason.

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