we usually have to hear both sides of the story.. .. HOWEVER... I do know the situations of you speak off.. and based on what u've said.. sad to say.. its not unusual.. its not very far off from the usual

now I'll tell u my thoughts on your side..
and I shall also quote stuff out of the penalty guidelines so if you want to print a copy out.. and take it to the next tournament.. and POINT it out the official what is NECESSARY and REQUIRED of him to do.. you can.

mind you.. you can point it out to him.. but u cant demand him to issue anything.. however.. if he fails to comply.. I'll also tell you how to request an investigation into the matter.

this is the lightest of the unsporting conduct..

151. Unsporting Conduct--Minor

Definition:

Minor Unsporting Conduct is defined as behavior that may be disruptive to a
person at the tournament, but has no significant impact on the operation of
the tournament in any way.

Example:

(A) A player uses vulgar profanity in the presence of a parent or young
player.

(B) A player loudly demands to a judge that her opponent receive a penalty.

Philosophy:

Different levels of unsporting conduct should be penalized accordingly. The
head judge is always the final authority on what constitutes unsporting
conduct and is free to interpret the guidelines as he or she sees fit for the
appropriate situation.

Penalty:

Unsporting Conduct--Minor

REL1 REL 2 REL 3 REL 4 REL 5
Warning Warning Warning Warning Warning

this is the smallest penalty.. however.. in cases of harassment.. especially sexual such as the one described above..

here is the link on penalty guidelines
http://www.wizards.com/DCI/judge/MTG_DCI_Penalty_Guidelines_Print.asp

its under 151, 152, 153

under the definition of 153 - Unsporting Conduct - Severe..
Severe Unsporting Conduct is defined as behavior that is disruptive to a
player or players at a tournament, causes delays, and may include any form
of physical contact or significant emotional distress.

I would have asked the offending player to apologize and then proceeded to throw him out of the tournament.. and banned him from any further tournaments. I'd also would have filed complaint to DCI about the behavior of the player.

and Warning would be issued for First offense in your situation.. and a repeated offense should have been dealt with appropiately.. such as DQ or a Double-Warning. Should a third have happened.. well.. u get the idea.. it gets ugly.

now.. as for TemptingElf to slap a stupid little boy for making harassing remarks.. I do feel its proper for a lady to defend herself.. if u've said something improper and rather insulting.. expect a kick in between the legs.. I think the kid got off easy.

as for reporting the judge official that was standing there and doing nothing.. to open an investigation into the matter..

email elaine@wizards.com (our beloved DCI Policy Administrator) and include the time, place, event, date and a full account of the matter that occurred.. it'd be best if you had temptingelf herself write this in with the full account of what happened..
include the name of the judge and anything else that elaine needs to know..

to be perfectly honest.. if it happened the way you described.. I am ashamed to say that some within our ranks really arent worthy to hold the title of a certified judge.

here's what *I* would have done...

Sir, pls refrain from harassing your opponent.. you will be getting a warning.. under Unsporting Conduct - Minor... if it should happen again.. you will be thrown out of the tournament. understood? now I want you to apologize. (if he doesnt.. issue another warning under failure to obey tournament official) if remarks were to be made again.. instruct the offending player of the following..
sir.. thats enough.. you may pack your bags and leave now... but before that.. I will turn my back for 10 seconds.. temptingelf.. you're free to correct him of his behavior.

if you've read my article (in my signature) of my judging article of the event that occurred at pt-ny.. u'd understand that I wouldnt stand for such things and they'd be gone

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again.. I'm sorry to hear that we have this kind of pathetic ppl within our ranks.. I'm sure the matter will be dealt with quickly
Contact Elaine Ferrao to get this issue resolved.. you should also take legal action against the kid to teach him that such statements can get him in quite a bit of trouble.

as Lesh said.. this matter should NOT go unresolved...

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Hope you get better luck net time!!

at least a level 5 there?

wow.. really? here I thought there is only 1 official lvl 5 in the world.. and that'd be Jeff Donias

the majority of judges in the world are level 1.. lvl 5 isnt that easy to come by ya know.. hell.. level 2 is hard enough..

next time.. know what you're saying before you open your mouth

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Well, it be time to throw my change in. When I first started attending tourneys, I came across allot of crude behavior towards both sexes. My first tourney, I ended up playing against one of the better players, who happened to be a 13yr old kid. Well he kicked my a$$ severe, though after the match, he fled the scene thinking that I would do something nasty for the loss. I didn't even have time to say,"Good game", he just ran. I viewed this as unfortunate, since he somehow was told before the match that I had a rather Ominous reputation in the city, and it struck a nerve with him. I thought he played a rather good game, and had no problems losing to the guy. One of my biggest downfalls in playing magic, is the fact that most of the time you wouldn't see someone like myself playing, mostly you would expect me to be in a biker bar, or the like. I'll give you a quick picture of what I looked like. 6'5", 230lb, long dkbrown hair, goatie, and almost always wearing a leather vest with my tats showing.
Now after having a large grouping of my matches turn out the same way, with me not doing anything to warrant it, I decided to become a judge, thinking maybe these people who had a certain distrust of me would relax, and it worked. Now as to the female end of this, as a Lv 2 judge, I would not tollerate any behavior that deems unsportsmanlike, since I have experienced a trash can full myself, I know what it does to someone on the recieving end. And as a player, all the guy had to do was say one thing out of place with the judge agreeing and I would have hauled both of them out of the building, possibly being DQ'ed myself. Let this be a warning to all You little Sh!ts out there. There is a place and time for trashtalking, and in the tourney scene, that is just not one of them. Unless you know the person, and I mean really know, keep yer yap shut, or someone might shut it fer ya. TemptingElf, in my eyes you did the right thing, though next time have the head judge present, as you had the kid his family jewels. I must also make one thing clear, I DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, tollerate violence with the game magic. It is a peacefull game, and it is JUST A GAME. So if you feel the need to vent, take it outside by yourself, and cool your heels. Or you just might not be welcome at a tourney, let alone a game again.

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But...Coolio, I like your solution the best. However, since TemptingElf is a rather non-violent person (she really is; her losing her temper like that isn't exactly a common occurance), and since there's a LOT of local players that would gladly kick this kid's face in for insulting her, how about you turn your back for a bit longer?

If he made those kinds of comments in any sport venue (something Magic tournaments are TRYING to PRETEND to be), he would be ejected from the game for unsportsman (read "unprofessional" if money is involved) conduct.

This kind of adolescent and rude behavior (on the part of the kid) being allowed and considered acceptible at Magic tournaments only keeps Magic as something "geeks & freaks" play with.

Next time TemptingElf (if she does give Magic another try) runs into this kinda situation, and the "judge" says that the comments are "not breaking any rules", have him answer if "sexual harrasment" is acceptible behavior (and then warn him to prep for a law suite if he answers wrong).

20:1? maybe worse...now think of this a girlfriend whose into magic?